BEWARE OF PYRAMID SCHEMES posing as a legitimate MLM

[darkdruid]

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OT: americans, stupid enough... yes that's absolutely correct. try to ask from call centers nalang... in other words, research.

[Gray_Fox]

OT: lol? mostly, those americans are old enough that can't or don't want to read manuals. call center agents are paid to do their jobs. and thats one of their jobs to assist those kind of people.

How bout in other countries, Herbalife exist too. are they that stupid too? i think this is my last post on this thread. i already have enough evidence to support that Herbalife is Legit and enough questions that none of you people have quoted to answer. so yeah... CIAO!

[ncmknight]

Herbalife is Legit.

No question about it.

So is Nuskin. So is My 7 Diamonds. So are IgenPortal, First Quadrant, BP.Net, Forex Trading, Coca-Cola, Surf...

So are Natasha and Avon.

Then again, how does Natasha and Avon differ from Herbalife and other similarly-designed MLMs?

Natasha and Avon SELL SELL SELL their products. Herbalife and the like RECRUIT to RECRUIT to RECRUIT to RECRUIT TO......... sell.

I dunno exactly on what level the SELLING materializes, but definitely, the first thing you think when you sign up is to find as many relatives and associates to sign up. In fact, it is often frustrating when your prospects (or more aptly called victims) have been signed up already by your upline.

So sometimes, LEGIT is not synonymous with MORAL and RIGHT.

[darkdruid]

Herbalife is Legit.

No question about it.

So is Nuskin. So is My 7 Diamonds. So are IgenPortal, First Quadrant, BP.Net, Forex Trading, Coca-Cola, Surf...

So are Natasha and Avon.

Then again, how does Natasha and Avon differ from Herbalife and other similarly-designed MLMs?

Natasha and Avon SELL SELL SELL their products. Herbalife and the like RECRUIT to RECRUIT to RECRUIT to RECRUIT TO......... sell.

I dunno exactly on what level the SELLING materializes, but definitely, the first thing you think when you sign up is to find as many relatives and associates to sign up. In fact, it is often frustrating when your prospects (or more aptly called victims) have been signed up already by your upline.

So sometimes, LEGIT is not synonymous with MORAL and RIGHT.

straight to the point. hehe.

good enough to spoonfeed @Gray_Fox ... so yeah... CIAO!

[jonz]

so what about network marketing?anybody knows how it really works?
anybody can distiguish what is real network marketing from a scam?

if you can distinguish then you understand if you dont then you generalize it... then you still dont understand it. the scam they got it from the real one... asa mn sila mangupya heheheh
thats why they ruin the whole industry.........

[jonz]

No matter how they deny it, MLM as distinguished from traditional business slowly veers towards pyramiding.

MLMers will deny this, but the moment they think of joining a certain MLM, they think of signing up all relatives and associates they can think of right now, especially when their upline tells them they can quickly gain their investment back if they have 2 or 5 people as their downline.

Some will claim to sell directly, but mind you, direct selling is a last resort, when you can't sign up anyone anymore.

Want to earn big? Don't sell. Recruit. The more recruits, the bigger your commission and the sooner you can fly to Disneyland. Sooner you'll be bumping into your own relative, recruiting your other relatives.

its 3 way
sponsoring
wholesaling
retailing

thats real network marketing...its not only recruiting..ky kung recruit ra binuang na....
the way most people view it is a scam....... ky recruit2x.... to check.... dapat it should be fare game dili sa nka una........ meaining effort based not head base not sa nka una.......

recruit and earn big? forget it whats the use of recruiting if you cant develop that person
selling as the last resort?its not the last resort its part of it if you cant accept it forget network marketing
if you cant teach/train people forget network marketing.. if you want get rich quick scheme forget network marketing go to scam and pyramiding system go to binary balance2x

if you cant handle rejection? go and get a job dont do MLM dont do business
if you dont believe on what you rea doing?then whats the use of doing it
if you cant handle failure you can never be successfull
if you cant cant lead and willing to learn how to lead dont do network marketing
if you need to be motivated?dont go to network marketing go get a job your boss motivate you
if you are dependent?go get a job dont do network marketing coz you are must be independent when you do network marketing.if your upline keeps on pushing you?then he is not doing anything then get another upline... he just brought you to business teach you and when you know how to do it go on your own you are not employee you.. you are a businessman.. you are just partnering with a company where you get the supply of the products need to operate your business....
if you recruit and you dont sell you are not doing it properly... it is still selling
people do what you do not what you say
they will follow what you do so if you just recruit dont sell they will follow you they can duplicate your wrong modeling............ its a failure
if you are not growing.... you are dying
if you think network marketing is a get rich quick scheme? it is not you rather buy a lotto, rob a bank or go to scams its easy and easy ruin your name and its really really hard to recover reputation
if you are doing network marketing and its a binary pair2x.. ask the person why do you have to balance2x that in the first place walay balance2x sa negosyo........if they cant answer you honestly then you know
the eyes speaks more than the mouth tells, the motions tells more than the emotion shows
walay mtago nga asu
if they show you cheque car stickers just to persuade you to join.. forget it....... binuang... in the first place why do you have to show it.......encourage?hehehe very unethical unprofessional

if you are saying you know everything about network marketing... then why are you not successful
if you say network marketing is a scam then so be it its a scam thats your perception
you can only give a meaning if you put a meaning on it
if you tell a person not to do legitimate network marketing to achieve the things that he want in life
can you suggest what he should do to achieve it, or you yourself were not able to achieve it
if you will say not to it then make a suggestion that you already experience and you have are already very very very successful and rich with that they will follow what you do since you set already an example.. if not there will always be people who will look for option to achieve what they want in life... sad to say naa lay naad2 sa scam thats why they hated the whole industry...... they are victim and they prefer to stay as a victim by just limiting what they know and not knowing everything.....

network marketing doesnt work........... you have to work on it
dont try network marketing.... for it will try you..............

[ncmknight]

Tell that to us when you're at least 2 years with the MLM you're currently at, because as far as I know, the really enthusiastic ones are the newbies who still hold on to the promise of riches of MLMs.

It doesn't take a genius to figure out that MLM is not sustainable. If FLV was not able to sustain it despite the wide variety of effective and excellent products, neither can the latter MLMs that came to this country not so far back.

Why? Because the system is designed for doom.

Here's looking forward your friends and relatives and associates don't shudder at the sound of your name one day, because when that time comes, you'll hear quotes such as "naa na sad ning samukan", "ayaw paduol anang tawhana kay malas na, makapurdoy", "ayaw mo pailad ana". And it's not even your fault. It's the MLM system's fault.

[jonz]

yes I will tell you, just keep this thread alive.......
what system are you refering? bsn imong gpasobt preho sa legacy igen juvio and other scams
nga ang ng una ry ma hayahay if mao na imong gpasabot.......... then ang scam na not the legit

Here's looking forward your friends and relatives and associates don't shudder at the sound of your name one day, because when that time comes, you'll hear quotes such as "naa na sad ning samukan", "ayaw paduol anang tawhana kay malas na, makapurdoy", "ayaw mo pailad ana". And it's not even your fault. It's the MLM system's fault.------------------ only if you persuade that person to join... y do you have to persuade that nga d mn cya gnhan

It doesn't take a genius to figure out that MLM is not sustainable. If FLV was not able to sustain it despite the wide variety of effective and excellent products, neither can the latter MLMs that came to this country not so far back.-------and whats out for the new ones, they might open now then after they suck all your money they will gone like a wind

again network marketing its not easy you have to exert effort in order for your business to grow, if you are weak ayaw nlang......if you cant handle failure you will never be successful

for those who disagree about network marketing suggest what to do in order to achieve the lifestyle that most people desire because human in nature always seek for improvement in lifestyle. they start with network marketing coz it has minimum investment....ang luoy lang kung ad2ka ma apil sa scam... once that compnay will close, you will hate the industry coz you think binuang ang networking coz normally itwill last 2-4 years tjen mg binukingay dayon hehehe

suggest if not network maketing coz people who join network marketing dont care about network marketing they care sa ilang mga pangandoy maop ni apil sila ana

[ncmknight]

Unfortunately, the network marketing option your company is offering is pumping people up, frustrating them when it turns out that without recruitment, their so-called "OWN, MINIMAL INVESTMENT BUSINESS" is damned without recruitment. People care about their dreams, but MLM has only taken them so far as the number of people they can sign up into the business.

Since most of the MLMers talk about wealth so much, who anyway made so much wealth out of it and sustained it till this point? Aren't they the founders of the business only?

I have been invited to numerous "NEXT GREAT OPPORTUNITY" several times, and the trend is always, find a good, hardworking distributor who can find the next good, hardworking distributor who can.... i dunno... sell? And the product has never been the main focus. It's always an AFTERTHOUGHT. Herbalife, Nuskin, Juvio... crack their heads together, and you won't see anything new.

[Ryze]

Network Marketing - pros and cons. This will be a never-ending debate because everyone of us has different paradigms. We see what we see and analyzed it in our own experience and learnings. Some people see opportunity and I'm one of those, while others see failure and resentment.

There is no perfect business nor a perfect job. It is you that makes them perfect or makes them worth your time. Plus inject some fun into it because if you are not enjoying what you are doing then you will attract negative energies.

In every business or job, people fail and succeed. It's a matter of how you learn from your previous failures, get up and continue fighting for your dreams. No matter what is!

Cheers to successful entrepreneurs!