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    Consumer Information

    Pyramid Schemes
    Don't make a costly mistake!
    Thousands of Americans have lost millions of dollars participating in pyramid schemes. Many of the victims knew they were gambling (although they didn't know the odds were rigged against them). Many others, however, thought they were paying for help in starting a small business of their own. These people were fooled by pyramid schemes disguised to look like legitimate businesses.
    The purpose of this article is to help you avoid falling victim to pyramid schemes, whether simple or disguised. Simple pyramid schemes are similar to chain letters, while disguised pyramids are like wolves in sheep's clothing, hiding their true nature in order to fool potential investors and evade law enforcers.

    CONSUMER ALERT Avoid dealing with salespeople who:
    · Disparage other products or firms.
    · Confuse you, abuse your trust, or exploit your lack of experience or knowledge.
    · Try to make you cancel a contract made with another salesperson.
    · Falsely tell you they're taking a survey or you've just won a contest. Avoid dealing with companies that:
    · Charge a substantial entry fee (more than the cost of a sales kit).
    · Pressure you to purchase large quantities of products. · Do not repurchase inventory if you decide to leave the business.
    · Sell few or no products to consumers.

    What is a pyramid scheme?
    Pyramid schemes are illegal scams in which large numbers of people at the bottom of the pyramid pay money to a few people at the top. Each new participant pays for the chance to advance to the top and profit from payments of others who might join later. For example, to join, you might have to pay anywhere from a small investment to thousands of dollars. In this example, $1,000 buys a position in one of the boxes on the bottom level. $500 of your money goes to the person in the box directly above you, and the other $500 goes to the person at the top of the pyramid, the promoter. If all the boxes on the chart fill up with participants, the promoter will collect $16,000, and you and the others on the bottom level will each be $1,000 poorer. When the promoter has been paid off, his box is removed and the second level becomes the top or payoff level. Only then do the two people on the second level begin to profit. To pay off these two, 32 empty boxes are added at the bottom, and the search for new participants continues.
    Each time a level rises to the top, a new level must be added to the bottom, each one twice as large as the one before. If enough new participants join, you and the other 15 players in your level may make it to the top. However, in order for you to collect your payoffs, 512 people would have to be recruited, half of them losing $1,000 each.
    Of course, the pyramid may collapse long before you reach the top. In order for everyone in a pyramid scheme to profit, there would have to be a never-ending supply of new participants.
    In reality, however, the supply of participants is limited, and each new level of participants has less chance of recruiting others and a greater chance of losing money.

    Things you should know about pyramid schemes
    1. They are losers. Pyramiding is based on simple mathematics: many losers pay a few winners.
    2. They are fraudulent. Participants in a pyramid scheme are, consciously or unconsciously, deceiving those they recruit. Few would pay to join if the diminishing odds were explained to them.
    3. They are illegal. There is a real risk that a pyramid operation will be closed down by law enforcement officials and the participants subject to fines and possible arrest.
    Why would anyone pay to join a pyramid scheme?
    Pyramid promoters are masters of group psychology. At recruiting meetings they create a frenzied, enthusiastic atmosphere where group pressure and promises of easy money play upon people's greed and fear of missing a good deal. Thoughtful consideration and questioning are discouraged. It is difficult to resist this kind of appeal unless you recognize that the scheme is rigged against you.
    Disguised pyramid - wolf in sheep's clothing
    Some pyramid promoters try to make their schemes look like multilevel marketing methods. Multilevel marketing is a lawful and legitimate business method which uses a network of independent distributors to sell consumer products.
    To look like a multilevel marketing company, a pyramid scheme takes on a line of products and claims to be in the business of selling them to consumers. However, little or no effort is made to actually market the products. Instead, money is made in typical pyramid fashion, from recruiting. New distributors are pushed to purchase large and costly amounts of inventory when they sign up.
    For example, you might have to purchase $1,000 of nearly worthless products in order to become a "distributor." The person who recruited you receives $500 (a fifty percent commission) and $500 goes to the top (the company, in this case). Notice the similarity to the simple pyramid scheme described earlier.
    Most disguised pyramids, however, are not this easy to unmask. Pyramid schemes often choose products which are cheap to produce but which have no established market value, such as new miracle products, exotic cures, etc. This makes it difficult to tell whether there is a real consumer market for the products. The best way to avoid a disguised pyramid fraud is to know what to look for in a legitimate income opportunity.

    Multilevel Marketing - Legitimate income opportunities
    Multilevel marketing is a popular way of retailing in which consumer products are sold, not in stores by sales clerks, but by independent businessmen and women (distributors), usually in customers' homes. As a distributor you can set your own hours and earn money by selling consumer products supplied by an established company.
    In a multilevel structure you can also build and manage your own salesforce by recruiting, motivating, supplying and training others to sell those products. Your compensation then includes a percentage of the sales of your entire sales group as well as earnings on your own sales to retail customers. This opportunity has made multilevel marketing an attractive way of starting a business with comparatively little money.

    How to tell the difference between a legitimate business and a disguised pyramid scheme
    Pyramid schemes seek to make money from you (and quickly). Multilevel marketing companies seek to make money with you as you build your business (and theirs) selling consumer products. Before you sign up with a company, investigate carefully. A good way to begin is to ask yourself these three questions:
    1. How much are you required to pay to become a distributor?
    If the startup cost is substantial, be careful! The start-up fee in multilevel companies is generally small (usually for a sales kit sold at or below company cost). These companies want to make it easy and inexpensive for you to start selling. Pyramid schemes, on the other hand, make nearly all of their profit on signing up new recruits. Therefore, the cost to become a distributor is usually high. CAUTION: PYRAMIDS OFTEN DISGUISE ENTRY FEES AS PART OF THE PRICE CHARGED FOR REQUIRED PURCHASES OF TRAINING, COMPUTER SERVICES, PRODUCT INVENTORY, etc. These purchases may not even be expensive or "required," but there will be considerable pressure to "take full advantage of the opportunity."
    2. Will the company buy back unsold inventory?
    IF YOU COULD BE STUCK WITH UNSOLD INVENTORY, BEWARE! Legitimate companies which require inventory purchases will usually "buy back" unsold products if you decide to quit the business. Some state laws and the DSA Code of Ethics require buy-backs for at least 90% of your original cost.
    3. Are the company's products sold to consumers?
    IF THE ANSWER IS NO (OR NOT MANY), STAY AWAY! This is a key element. Multilevel marketing (like other methods of retailing) depends on selling to consumers and establishing a market. This requires quality products, competitively priced. Pyramid schemes, on the other hand, are not concerned with sales to end users of the product. Profits are made on volume sales to new recruits, who buy the products, not because they are useful or attractively priced, but because they must buy them to participate. Inventory purchases should never be more than you can realistically expect to sell or use yourself.

    Warning Signs of Fraud
    1. Pressure to sign a contract quickly and agree to pay a large sum of money before sales claims can be investigated or legal advice obtained.
    2. Promises of extraordinarily high or guaranteed profits
    3. Claims that profits can be achieved easily
    4. A required initial fee which greatly exceeds the fair market value of any products, kits or training
    5. A large fee payable before you receive anything in return
    6. Evasive answers by the salesperson or unwillingness to give disclosure documents required by law.
    These are only warning signs of the most obvious frauds. An independent investigation is necessary in any case. A fraudulent salesperson may be prepared with glib assurances and authentic-looking documents. Remember, if it's worth your money, it's worth your time to investigate.

    How to protect yourself from a bad investment
    1. Take your time. Don't let anyone rush you. A good opportunity to build a business in a multilevel structure will not disappear overnight. People who say "get in on the ground floor" are implying that people joining later will be left out in the cold. BEWARE!
    2. Ask questions:
    o About the company and its officers.
    o About the products - their cost, fair market value, source of supply, and potential market in your area.
    o About the start up fee (including required purchases).
    o About the company's guaranteed buy-back of required purchases.
    o About the average earnings of active distributors.
    3. Get written copies of all available company literature.
    4. Consult with others who have had experience with the company and its products. Check to see if the products are actually being sold to consumers.
    5. Investigate and verify all information. Do not assume that official looking documents are either accurate or complete.

    Where to go for help
    For additional help evaluating a company, click on Considering an Opportunity?. (This should link to the Considering an opportunity section above) In addition to checking with the Direct Selling Association, you may also be able to try the following resources:
    · Your local Chamber of Commerce
    · Better Business Bureau
    · Public Library
    · Nearby university or testing laboratory
    · Local businesses dealing with similar products
    · Local city District Attorney's Office, Consumer Fraud Division
    · State Attorney General's Consumer Fraud Division
    · Federal Trade Commission
    · National Fraud Information Center
    · Local Prosecutor's Office
    If you suspect that a company may be an illegal pyramid, contact your state and local law enforcement offices and the Federal Trade Commission.


    This information was originally published by the Direct Selling Education Foundation, a Washington, D.C. not-for-profit public education organization. It is tax-exempt and contributions to it are tax-deductible. The objective of the Foundation is to serve the public interest with education, information and research, thereby encouraging greater public awareness and acceptance of direct selling in the marketplace.
    The Foundation funds consumer and academic conferences; supports speakers, teaching materials and the writing of case studies for university marketing professors; and develops and distributes consumer information literature and audiovisual materials.
    This information was originally published in cooperation the National District Attorneys Association's Economic Crime Project. It has been prepared in cooperation with the Federal Trade Commission, Washington, D.C. 20580.
    © 1997 Direct Selling Education Foundation, quotes and reprints permitted with attribution.

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    nice topic....

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    this is really useful... tnx!

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    Naa na pod .... fuct the PM ... lay the card down here or post a new topic regarding your HARMONDE .
    " A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. " - 2nd Amendment , Bill of Rights of the United States of America

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    uhmm....unsang mga companies ang pasabot ana?

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    @digitalsuperman: you asking for the PYRAMIDING companies posing as LEGITIMATE?

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    bitaw, ngano diay i-post nalang ang info. mura man naay gi tago

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    Quote Originally Posted by lordzarkhan
    @digitalsuperman: you asking for the PYRAMIDING companies posing as LEGITIMATE?
    yes...unsa nga mga companies na?

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    Hi guys, i've been making some research on these aspects and i found out that THERE ARE MORE PYRAMIDS IN THE PHILIPPINES THAN IN EGYPT. I don't wanna mention some names of companies since i know for a fact that alot of guys in this forum just happen to be involved with these companies.

    Let me illustrate:

    1. Pyramiding schemes tend to overprice products.
    - Check the quality and the price of products. For instance, I found some companies selling shoes priced (by the thousands of pesos) more than their cost value and if you only care to check where the shoes has been made, you'll find out that its been made in Marikina and you can even find alot of these shoes in Baclaran being sold at P500.00.

    2. You basically dont get the value of your investment.
    - In business, there will always be what you call a FAIR TRADE. A VALUE PER VALUE is of the essence in business. It is normal to pay a huge amount of money to start your own business. But if you are not getting your moneys worth, you're in big trouble. Before you invest in a MLM company, think first and ask the person presenting the business to you, that if you sell the products that you get from investing, you can still get your money back. If you cant, its a pyramiding scheme.

    3. Where will your income come from?
    - There are only two sources of income in a Legitimate MLM company
    > Product Movement
    > Services Rendered
    A distributor of a legitimate MLM company does not earn from recruiting new distributors into the sales force. This means that you can become a distributor even if you dont get the entire investment package and that the sponsor doesnt earn anything from this transaction.

    Distributors earn thru commissions from the movement of products and services. Even if you dont have new recruits, as long as products are moved and services are rendered in your organization, you still get paid. And when your consumer base is big enough, distributors can now achieve FREEDOM because you get paid everytime your customers buy your products.

    4. The BALANCE Factor
    - I found out that alot of MLM companies in the Philippines implement a BINARY System to operate on their networks. This system is said to be copied and modeled from a company named USANA. Further research showed that USANA is distributing CONSUMABLE products that people buy month after month therefore, distributors still get paid even of they dont have new recruits and even if their organization is not BALANCED.

    The only thing that you need to balance in business is your BALANCE SHEET!

    5. There should be not LIMIT
    - Why should you limit your business when you should'nt. Whats the point? There should be no limit to the number of people you put in your organization because what you call DOWNLINES are also your CUSTOMERS. Would you want to limit the number customers in your business? Why limit to 1,2 or 5 direct downlines when you can have hundreds or even thousands of DOWNLINES or CUSTOMERS?

    In business, THE MORE THE MERRIER

    6. The GET RICH QUICK SCHEME
    - Get RICH QUICK !! THERE IS NO SUCH THING!!!
    When people invite you to these business opportunities and tell you that its easy and that you'll get your "DREAMS" easily, stay away from these people ASAP!!!

    Guys, be SMART!!! You're integrity will be at stake when you get involve in these businesses. And when you decide to do so, make sure you've made a background check on the company. For starters, Partner with a company with a good track record outside of the Philippines. Use the internet.

    digitalsuperman: I hope that i have helped you on your quest for truth

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