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    Quote Originally Posted by Soul Doctor View Post
    Mao ni gitawag og Art of War.
    Actually dugay rang gaplano ang China moinvade sa Phil.
    In art of war you have to win the war first before you declare war.

    Hinayhinay osa ta sa China og cripple.

    Ask yourself:

    1.)Nganung naa man tay communist party of the Phils?
    Muslim fundamentalist ba diay ga support nila.
    Kinsa may communist? China di ba?
    Kining mga rebelde, activist nga nagsigeg pasopaso sa treets, kinsa may nagsupport nila financially?
    dili man ni muslim or arabs. communists ni sila.

    China is secretly financing military group thru jose marie Sison.
    This is to keep the military busy and to keep our economy down.
    mas problemado ang security sa nasod mas dili makaattract og foreign investments.
    Mas dugay o lisod pagdevelop ang nasod. mas pobre mas sayon pildihon sa gubat.

    2.) Nganung target man sa mga communist party or leftist group ang america.?
    Tungod kay ang america maoy potential motabang nato kung ugaling gubaton ta sa china.
    Mao nga ilang palaguton ang mga tawo sa U.S. aron makontra na nato ang U.S. ug mawad-an ta og ally.
    Para sayon na dayon ta nila attakehon.

    3.)Kinsay nagsigeg strike sa atong mga dagko nga industries ug companiya,
    using the labor unions and other leftist labor groups.
    Nganung gibuhat ni nila.
    Dili ni aron i-improve ang atong industries.
    Hinayhinayan niyag cripple ang atong industries aron daghan mawad-an og trabaho aron makuhaan ang salig sa mga tawo sa atong gobyerno unya modawat na dayon ta sa ilang i-offer nga communism sa China as the better alternative.

    4.)Nganung gibahaan man atong nasod sa mga barato nga china made products?
    aron maguba ang atong economia. Maguba ang atong local industries.
    Again mas pobre ang nasod mas sayon atakehon kay dili man sila kapalit og mga weapons or airplanes and missiles and jet bombers. ang china naa na silay nuclear missile giandam para sa pilipinas inkaso modecide na silag gubat nato. America na lang ug United Nations ilang problema.
    Pero sayon ra nila ingnon nga giilog sa pilipinas ang ilang teritoryo sa Sabah.
    Adto ta nila biklon.

    5.) Asa gikan ang drugs diri sa pilipinas,?
    ug nganung suko kaayo sila nga nabalik sa China ang mga drugs gikan diri.?
    tungod kay ang drugs gikan sa china gihimo para sa filipino.
    mao kini gamiton aron pagweaken sa atong military reservist.
    pareho sa gihimo sa mga English ngadto sa hongkong,
    nga gihimo una nilang adik sa opium ang mga tawo aron sayon sakopon.
    kung daghan nag adik diri, mas daghan ang pobre, mas daghan way trabaho,
    mas luya ang mga kalalakihan mas dali sakopon kung sugdan og gubat.
    Robert Greene's 33 Strategies of War ... Law #31: Destroy From Within: The Inner Front Strategy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katulz View Post
    1. china WILL NOT invade philippines what so ever...
    why?
    it will do more bad to china than good...
    2. there will be NO world war anytime soon...
    why?
    china's economy is dependent on exports and imports
    china needs the world
    China's PLA (Peoples Liberation Army) is defensive in structure and is only a
    regional power
    USA military is a global power.

    so don't panic.. the worst case scenario will only be Philippines losing some of spratly islands we claim...
    Sure ka bro?
    unsa may gi-import sa china gikan sa pilipinas?

    sa kadako sa yuta sa china,
    they are into agriculture,
    so dili mahitabo nga magutom ni sila.
    comparatively, gamay ra sad ang ilang mga tawo, tungod sa ilang one child policy.
    dili parehas sa pilipinas nga over populated,
    so gamay ra sad ang ilang need.
    asa man ang dependence diha?

    asa gikan atong mga bugas, lamas, prutas, utanon?
    nagexport ba ta ani sa china?

    and do not underestimate the military power of china.
    walay kalibutan ang u.s. kung unsay mga tinaguan nga nuclear weapons and biological weapons ang china.

    Asa diay gikan ang SARS?
    Gatuo ka nga accidente ra to?
    Testing ra to nila oi.
    Usa ka buhi sa SARS diri sa pilipinas, hurot na ta.
    And they are into biological weapons research.
    Ayaw kasayop og ingon nga weak ni sila.
    China is a very powerful and very smart country.
    It would be a mistake to underestimate them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by binarypill View Post
    a lot of the businesses here in the philippines are run by chinese entrepreneurs. what does that tell you?
    It only tells us nga mas maayo sila monegosyo og modala sa ilang kwarta kay sa average nga pilipino nga ihuort ra ilang mga tinigum inig abot sa fiesta.
    makaganasya og gamay sa negosyo, palit dayon og nindot nga auto.
    makagnansya sa usa ka transaction, hikay dayon ug makig-inom.

    it has nothing to do with war plans of china to invade us..
    but it doesnt mean nga wala silay plano moinvade nato. tungod kay dugay ra kaayo na silang nag plano moinvade. 70's pa. 40 to 50 years of silent attack, now could be the time for reaping.

    Sayon ra kaayo ta atakehon oi. dili ta kinahanglan og nuclear weapon, gasto kaayo na.
    Atakehon ta nila nga wala ta kahibawo nga gi-atake diay ta.

    Magplant ra sila og biological weapon or virus sa usa sa bag sa atong mga balik bayan.
    Butangan lang og hard boiled eggs nga naay sars virus. Inig abot sa pilipinas hurot tag kamatay diri. unya baligyaan ta nilag anti dote. mahurot atong kwarta kay syempre mahalon man nilag maayo.
    after ato sayon na lang ta nila sakopon, dili na gani kinahanglan gubaton. kay kinabuhi na man ang imong hunahunaon. Unsaon kung moingon ang china nga tagaan lang ta nilag antidote kung atong ihatag ang mindanao nila? May mahimo kaha ta?

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    when the time comes na invade don ta sa china do you think walay lain countries mo sympathize nato? like US or UN .. bisag naa pay natabang ang CHINA sa kaning mga nasuda when it comes to war or invasion like this the ALLIES will always be on our side... powerful bitaw ang china becoz your looking on the NUMBERS but if you look on advance technology (military) nothing can still overrun the Us and the allies..
    think positive lng guys this war is far from reality.. possible but not now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soul Doctor View Post
    You are forgetting that there are people who benefits in every war. They supply and sell the weapons and arms, the military planes and the war missiles.
    This is how they make money in war.
    So if they become greedy now.
    they can create another false flag operations(like 911) just to start a war.
    But these people don't control the democratic process in America, unless you are knee-deep into conspiracy theories. The plain fact is that Americans are sick of war and will never tolerate a war with China. Whichever political party makes the decision to go into such a crazy war will be kicked out of office in no time.

    Trust me that no country wants any kind of war between these two giants U.S. and China. It will have catastrophic effect on our economy even if we aren't involved. The area is a primary sea lane where trade goods pass from Asia to the world, any interruption of this trade route will cause mass poverty on a scale you can't imagine. Think what will happen to the Philippines once we are no longer able to import rice from Thailand or cheap commodities from China. Our inflation is only low because of cheap goods, think if we can no longer buy cheap Chinese goods and have to buy super expensive Philippine products and do the math, we will be lucky if we don't see 100% inflation in one year.

    Bottomline: It's never going to happen. It's in no one's interests and the energy reserves in that area is not even known, it could be as large as Saudi Arabia or it could be absolutely nothing. Who wants to gamble a war for such uncertain benefits?

    By the way the Chinese in the Philippines have nothing to do with the Chinese in China or even the Chinese government. You have to understand most Filipino-Chinese came to the Philippines precisely to escape communism and there is no love for the communist party within the Chinese community here. Even Chinese in China are not necessarily supportive of CCP, but the sad reality is they must accept their rule, as you know what happened the last time Chinese tried to resist the communist party. This is another reason China won't get into a war with another country, their legitimacy with their people demands them to maintain the status quo as their rule isn't as solid as some people might believe and the whole system can tumble down at the smallest miscalculation.
    Last edited by monroy; 06-05-2011 at 06:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soul Doctor View Post
    China do not need the world for economic survival.
    infact they can easily produce more than what they need.
    China is a very powerful country, do not underestimate the powers of China.
    They've been planning to invade us for a long time.
    For how many years now, who financed the NPA's in mindanao?
    murag sayop imo hunahuna about china bai..if you think china is not depedent sa uban countries i think you have to think again. China became who they are because they opened up about 20 years ago (1979). Shenzhen, dongguan, & most of south china is progressive because of Deng Xiaoping. (Deng Xiaoping - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia). They are not stupid to try even invading.

    NPA? you mean China ang nagpaluyo? so sila diay ang nag himo sa idea sa communism? where did you get your info? that is a very creative thinking you have. i guess you really like consiracies too much. The NPA is around because of our goverment's lack of leadership & failure. Don't blame it to the chinese bai. mas dako og interest ang Malasya sa ato, so to add sa imo mga conpiracy theory, maybe malaysia ang nagpaluyo.

    I am living in china so, underestimating them is the last thing in my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kajrot1 View Post
    when the time comes na invade don ta sa china do you think walay lain countries mo sympathize nato? like US or UN .. bisag naa pay natabang ang CHINA sa kaning mga nasuda when it comes to war or invasion like this the ALLIES will always be on our side... powerful bitaw ang china becoz your looking on the NUMBERS but if you look on advance technology (military) nothing can still overrun the Us and the allies..
    think positive lng guys this war is far from reality.. possible but not now.
    mao bitaw nga kanang mga leftist militante groups sa kalsada ang US ang ilang target. para madrive away ang U.S. support.
    But even with U.S. and U.N. support they can always attack many nations simultaneously.
    Who knows if they attack here, they too are also planning to the US.
    When they attack philippines and when the US sympathizes, they attack the U.S. with biological weapons. Sayon ra baya pagdala ang mga biological weapons such as virus. pwede ra nimo ihulog sa airplane padung sa ground like a bomb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monroy View Post
    But these people don't control the democratic process in America, unless you are knee-deep into conspiracy theories. The plain fact is that Americans are sick of war and will never tolerate a war with China. Whichever political party makes the decision to go into such a crazy war will be kicked out of office in no time.

    Trust me that no country wants any kind of war between these two giants U.S. and China. It will have catastrophic effect on our economy even if we aren't involved. The area is a primary sea lane where trade goods pass from Asia to the world, any interruption of this trade route will cause mass poverty on a scale you can't imagine. Think what will happen to the Philippines once we are no longer able to import rice from Thailand or cheap commodities from China. Our inflation is only low because of cheap goods, think if we can no longer buy cheap Chinese goods and have to buy super expensive Philippine products and do the math, we will be lucky if we don't see 100% inflation in one year.

    Bottomline: It's never going to happen. It's in no one's interests and the energy reserves in that area is not even known, it could be as large as Saudi Arabia or it could be absolutely nothing. Who wants to gamble a war for such uncertain benefits?

    By the way the Chinese in the Philippines have nothing to do with the Chinese in China or even the Chinese government. You have to understand most Filipino-Chinese came to the Philippines precisely to escape communism and there is no love for the communist party within the Chinese community here. Even Chinese in China are not necessarily supportive of CCP, but the sad reality is they must accept their rule, as you know what happened the last time Chinese tried to resist the communist party. This is another reason China won't get into a war with another country, their legitimacy with their people demands them to maintain the status quo as their rule isn't as solid as some people might believe and the whole system can tumble down at the smallest miscalculation.
    The americans are sick of war.
    But the americans doesnt run the world.
    They dont even know what is happening in their own soil.
    it is only a small group of very influencial people that runs the world today.

    Obviously bata pa kaayo mo. wala pa mo kakita og actual nga war
    or wala lang gyud mo nagbasag history.

    When we will be invaded by China, the Filipino Chinese cant go anywhere else. They have no choice. they have to join with the invading force or they suffer as prisoners and have a higher chances of being abused and killed.

    When Japan invaded Philippines, they raped our women. Killed our children and to those pinoy who thought of surviving these things-- they opted to join the japanese force. same thing happened in the spanish invasion.
    Last edited by Soul Doctor; 06-05-2011 at 11:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve's Apple Project View Post
    murag sayop imo hunahuna about china bai..if you think china is not depedent sa uban countries i think you have to think again. China became who they are because they opened up about 20 years ago (1979). Shenzhen, dongguan, & most of south china is progressive because of Deng Xiaoping. (Deng Xiaoping - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia). They are not stupid to try even invading.

    NPA? you mean China ang nagpaluyo? so sila diay ang nag himo sa idea sa communism? where did you get your info? that is a very creative thinking you have. i guess you really like consiracies too much. The NPA is around because of our goverment's lack of leadership & failure. Don't blame it to the chinese bai. mas dako og interest ang Malasya sa ato, so to add sa imo mga conpiracy theory, maybe malaysia ang nagpaluyo.

    I am living in china so, underestimating them is the last thing in my mind.
    does it mean that if you are living in china you know whats going on in their leaders mind?
    Communism and rebels for communism--is just a way to distract and disrupt security of a nation thus keeping them from progress. Art of War lagi. Basaha osa ninyong art of war oi.

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    Have you tried playing Settlers, or other simulation games like settlers.
    At some point you must be prepared to attack the other settlers.
    Because you would not know when will they decide to end their friendship with you.
    If a settler becomes strong enough there's no other quest but to invade the next weaker settler.
    That is War.

    Iran, is also planning its own war.
    Israel is planning and commencing its own war.
    North Korea is planning its own war.

    There is no permanent ally in war.
    Maayo gani kay wala tay rich oil deposit diri.
    Kung naa pa. kita maoy gipasanginlan sa 911, og kita maoy gigubat diri.

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