Do You Approve of Luli Arroyo's Personal Attacks on Joey De Venecia ? And why ?

[mango]

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Here's another hot topic for the many Cebuanos who are popularly known nationwide as pro-GMA. Having said that - allow me to post an article by Ellen Tordesillas published in Malaya with added comments at the bottom from the anti-GMA to be fair.

My personal comment is - Luli Arroyo's comment was uncalled for. She didn't address the issues and instead drew the ires of people by commenting on Joey De Venecia's past addiction and hairline which were all in poor taste.
Thank you and hopefully a very Merry Xmas to us all.

http://www.ellentordesillas.com/?p=1627

September 21, 2007 at 1:02 am
To Luli: Que barbaridad!



In his explosive testimony at the Senate last Tuesday, Jose de Venecia III related the meeting at the Wack-Wack Golf Clubhouse last March where, in the presence of Comelec Chairman Benjamin Abalos, DOTC secretary Leandro Mendoza, Ruben Reyes, Jimmy Paz, and retired Police General Quirino de la Torre, Mike Arroyo, husband of Gloria Arroyo told him to “back off� from the big-ticket National Broadband project.

That same day Abalos issued a categorical denial. “I cannot understand how he (Joey de Venecia can come up with this kind of story. Wow! It’s a big lie. There is no such meeting. I deny all those (allegations).�

A day later, Mike Arroyo confirmed the meeting. Speaking through his lawyer Jesus Santos, Arroyo, on a three-day stopover in Venice for what was apparently a very important business in Zurich and Munich, said the Wack Wack meeting was “purely a chance encounter.�

Abalos and Mike Arroyo better get their act together. Nabibisto!

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Luli Arroyo’s below-the belt tirades at Joey de Venecia (�I don’t know if his old drug use affected his thinking� and “grasping at straws as thin as his hairline�) have unleashed meaner text messages.

One message I got said in “carabao� Spanish: “Oye, Luli que barbaridad! Porque sabi mo nagdroga si Joey de V? No te olvides tu Tio Iggy y hermano Mikey nag-droga tambien en la escuela de Jesuitas. Cerra la boca, puede?�

Here’s my “carabao� translation: “Luli, how horrible! You said Joey de V was into drugs? Don’t you remember that your uncle Iggy and brother Mikey were also into drugs when they were in Ateneo? Will you please keep you mouth shut?’

The text in Spanish fits Luli perfectly because there was one incident in La Vista in the first few years of her mother’s unelected presidency. It was a holiday and the reporters were there to get a statement from Gloria Arroyo on an issue which I can’t anymore remember.

Arroyo told Luli to serve some refreshments to the reporters. Within hearing distance of the reporters, Luli replied to her mother in Spanish, “What for, why do you have to feed them?�

That was bastos.
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Last week, I met a former DOTC official of Arroyo. He said he is so glad that he is out of the department at this time when it is embroiled in the national broadband controversy. He thinks Joey de Venecia is saying the truth.

He said there’s no way that the contract with the ZTE could be pushed. “It’s too hot. It could explode. It could bring down the Arroyo government.�

I asked what would happen to the reported “advance� payments to the tune of $198 million (that’s in dollars!) that the Chinese were said to have made.

The official said Arroyo would have to look for another project for the Chinese to recoup their payment. That means another overpriced project.

In our discussion, one thing was clear: Arroyo cannot afford to drop Abalos. She owes him her illegitimate presidency. She will have to protect him by all means. Or else he will bring her down with him.

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A regular participant in my blog, Tongue-Twisted, made the following observation:

“What reversals of fortunes! Just a few months ago, animals from the Pidal piggery were saying ‘putang ina mo’ in unison every time Alan Peter Cayetano spoke during the House Ethics Committee hearings that was sought by Mystery Man (Lacson and Jinggoy say Mister-ni-Ma’m) to expel Alan from Congress.

“Then, just before elections, it was Abalos threatening Alan, who was then pestering him to declare his originally-non-namesake Joselito as a nuisance and for many irregularities that attended the candidacy of the ‘other Cayetano.’ To which Abalos replied, ‘baka siya ang paimbestigahan ko!’

“This time around, the Pig and the Fixer are in Cayetano’s court.

“Sabi nga ni Linggoy Alcuaz, “Bilog ang mundo!�


Posted in Malaya | By Ellen

[vipvip68]

Bad move on Luli's part...


there's no way to justify what she said.... you can leave it to getting emotionally carried away with everything that's happened.


She did a boo boo and an apology is in order.

[aditti]

for the presidential daughter who is supposedly a well educated person, that comment was tasteless... at least she could comment on the shortcomings of the person while in the job..i guess wla cla'y makit-an hugaw except ana..

[mango]

What I found amusing was- even her wearing a suit with open-toed shoes/sandals whatever - was commented on. I saw that photo and I knew right away someone would say something. Siya man gud nag una2x.
Yea - people living in glass houses should not be throwing stones - indeed!

[mango]

Just a follow-up/survey on the Luli- Joey issue.

[gareb]

it's what people who cannot think of better counter-arguments usually do; demolish the person instead of the accusations. it's called argumentum ad hominem.

it says a lot about luli's character.

or maybe the issues thrown in the face of her father is just so darn true, she cannot make any solid counter-statements against them without appearing dumb, though admittedly she already sounds dumb using ad hominems...

mod's comment: i've merged the one with the poll into this topic for convenience purposes.

[The_Child]

she said what she had to say.

[SamuraiArcher]

at least now we know kinsa si JDV3, before Luli's comments, i thought credible ni si JDV3 but after reading Luli's commnets..nagduda nako kang JDV3 sa iyang mga gipanulti....

[ajol]

at least now we know kinsa si JDV3, before Luli's comments, i thought credible ni si JDV3 but after reading Luli's commnets..nagduda nako kang JDV3 sa iyang mga gipanulti....

JDV3's credility is untouched

Luli's comment only backfired on her family

Iggy Arroyo

Mikey Arroyo

One message I got said in "carabao" Spanish: "Oye, Luli que barbaridad! Porque sabi mo nagdroga si Joey de V? No te olvides tu Tio Iggy y hermano Mikey nag-droga tambien en la escuela de Jesuitas. Cerra la boca, puede?"

Here’s my "carabao" translation: "Luli, how horrible! You said Joey de V was into drugs? Don’t you remember that your uncle Iggy and brother Mikey were also into drugs when they were in Ateneo? Will you please keep you moth shut?’

http://www.malaya.com.ph/sep22/edtorde.htm

[vipvip68]

at least now we know kinsa si JDV3, before Luli's comments, i thought credible ni si JDV3 but after reading Luli's commnets..nagduda nako kang JDV3 sa iyang mga gipanulti....

Mao lagi ni karon.... the problem is that the comments to the topic are based on one person's statement.

It would be good if you would first try to get the viewpoint of the other party involved.

Let's see.... receeding hair line.... drug use in his college years affecting his mental capacity.....


Did you watch the hearing last tuesday when JDV III was grilled on his drug use? If you had watched or had read about his answer... you wouldn't be making such statements.

He admitted to marijuana during his college years... he then went to rehab in new york. Of course this happened 20+ years ago and he stated that he has not taken drugs or alcohol since then.

Also, he's the head of an organization that has been at the forefront of helping people deal with drug addiction here in the Philippines.



Now... what exactly did you read from Luli that makes you doubt JDVIII? Can't you see that this is a move by the administration to try to discredit him... I think they're really getting desperate dragging Luli into this...