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    Default Which should be settled first? Impeachment or Cha-cha


    for me... mas maau unahon ang Impeachment.

    GMA should clear first her name before proceeding with a very delicate process of changing our constitution.Â* Kay basin na hinoon ma half-baked ni ang atong bag-o nga constitution.

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    Default Re: Which should be settled first? Impeachment or Cha-cha

    Impeachment, first.

    Then and only then can the cloud of doubt be removed from the Presidency.

    The only problem now is whether or not the marginalized politicians can take the fact that impeachment still offers no space for them even if GMA is found guilty of the charges.

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    Default Re: Which should be settled first? Impeachment or Cha-cha

    Impeachment first para klaro.

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    Default Re: Which should be settled first? Impeachment or Cha-cha

    For me Cha-cha first.

    Corruption? Election cheating/ fraud?? It's nothing new. Everbody's doing it. Corruption can be found even in every Filipinos. I want to see progress / change.

    Let's say Arroyo will be impeached. The next PResident, I bet will undergo the same controversy. So another impeachment case again? This is the Cycle that we are adopting and this is very unhealthy.

    Impeachment? Everybody's guilty.

    This is my own humble opinion.

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    Default Re: Which should be settled first? Impeachment or Cha-cha

    Everybody's guilty.
    so a cha-cha would do nothing... coz it's the same person who is running the government. so how can you see progress/change if the people running the government hasn't change.

    Do you mean kong dali-dalion nato og ilis ang constitution mabuotan na ning mga congressman nato?

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    Default Re: Which should be settled first? Impeachment or Cha-cha

    Cha-cha is not really a solution nor impeachment. But I would go for cha-cha instead of impeachment.

    Impeachent is just repeating a vicious cycle.

    1.) Filipinos elect president.
    2.) Some Filipinos don't like president so make ways and means to remove.
    3.) If president is not remove through impeachment. Go to # 2.
    4.) If president is impeached. Go to # 2

    Remember improvement is minimal here since the focus of our government is impeachment.

    Unlike Cha-cha, there is movement or change even though same politicians are seated. At least I find use for my money rather than my money goes to a complaint which is political in nature.

    If asked "where my money is"

    I would rather answer, it's being used to change the system for further improvement

    rather

    it's being used in the impeachment case against the incumbent president due to some personal and political motives.

    I hope this clears my point sir.

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    Default Re: Which should be settled first? Impeachment or Cha-cha

    ok your point is very clear.

    but ang ako sab nga concern is they are proposing a cha-cha pina-agi sa con-ass.

    nahulog na man gud hinoon ni ron ang cha-cha mura og panakip butas sa political crisis ron... mahulog ani basin ang ato gitapak busloton kaau.

    And as early as now... gi-ingon na nga si GMA kono ang himoon first PM. how can we have stability on the first PM kong gi-question na siya daan.

    Basin mahimo na hinoon og Cha-cha for the congressmen not for the people.

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    Default Re: Which should be settled first? Impeachment or Cha-cha

    Good point Sir.

    I fear that removing a president is becoming a trend nowadays. If PGMA wil be impeached, I don't think she will be the last.

    For me Sir, having a corrupt politician is a given fact. Knowing that they exist, we will be spending the rest of our lives looking for the right president.

    OT: I believe PGMA cheated on the election but I also believe everyone cheated on the election. It just so happens that she got caught.

    The point am driving at Sir is that we'll be spending our time and money on trying to convict guilty people which we already know they are.

    I will go for cha-cha first. There are trade offs but there are also good things. It's part of the package.

    As far I remember, we had these system since I was born. And so far, nothing much has changed and it's getting worse. I want to live and see a different system for our country. If it fails, we need to try again. Atleast we are taking the options rather than busy frying someone.

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    Default Re: Which should be settled first? Impeachment or Cha-cha

    i'm still in favor of cha-cha through Con-con... at first GMA said nga Cha2x through con2x iya paboran but later on pag-SONA na... he would go for Cha-Cha thru Con-Ass... I can smeel something fishy in there...

    Mao mas maau pa unahon ang impeachment... nya hangyo-on nato ang bag-o mo lingkod kong mapulihan man gani nga mag cha-cha thru con-con not con-ass.

    FYI Noli is for Con-Con.

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    Default Re: Which should be settled first? Impeachment or Cha-cha

    both

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