ASPIN... is there any move to standardize our local breed?

[buttmen]

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how bout including or recognizing the said breed in the PCCI?
so sad it's hard to find aspins in dog shows or any competitions....


if there is any... please share your knowledge

[humper]

gud day!its a very nice question which has been thought & tried over the years by concerned or curious experts.i have a copy of the written standard of the ASPIN,which i've photocopied from a book written by a UP professor,which named the ASPIN then as "PHILIPPINE ASO',if im not mistaken its written during the 1970's (the same year the thought of standardizing our native dog).but unfortunately the study/breeding,failed due to several reasons:one is the very broad genetic diversity of the ASPIN which is a great hindrance in producing a purebred animal which breeds true to its type for up to 4 generations (one of the primary rules in accepting a certain breed as a purebred),second,is the difficulty in acquiring uniform breeding pairs as per conformation & type as per geographical location,third is the crossbreeding with 'new' breeds that is being introduced to our island (during those times the JAPANESE SPITZ claimed the spot of the popular breed often crossed with the ASPINS & later the GSD & the DOBERMANN).
other than that,several efforts has been made by biologists both foreign & locally to produced a "PUREBRED" ASPIN but either failed due to the same reasons or has difficulty containing the feral nature of some ASPIN'S or has no government funding or support to further expand the study/breeding of our own native dog or has not taken it seriously due to the attraction that has taken us Filipino's towards the foreign purebred dogs?hope in the future we could be proud of our native dogs similar to the fact that we are,with our "foreign" breeds

[dingo spike]

I'm thinking of the same thing. But sad to say, ASPINS are not considered a Pedigree by all means since they are a product of irregularity in terms of breeding and it may take us years of selective breeding for us to create a signature look of an ASPIN that is unique that we can really consider a representation of the Philippines in the dog world.

The term THIRD WORLD DOG primarily refers to any dogs in third countries like India, some South American Countries and even the Philippines although the Philippines is no longer considered a Third world Country. If we all notice, there are dogs from these countries that has resemblance, like most scientists would say nature has her way of designing an organism to adapt to it's surrounding in order for it to survive. The native Aspins and any Third World Dogs are short haired, smaller size and long snouted and these traits let's us see that these dogs are indeed low maintenance dogs, which is appropriate for owners who live in small houses and people without extravagance in their way of living.

Creating a Pure breed takes a lot of efffort and time, and the Filipinos never had any history of such actions in the past if I'm not mistaken, so naturally the dogs that we have are just the right one to fit our way of living ( very basic dogs ). But then again, there are Aspins that sports a unique character like longer furs and bigger size, but since there are no efforts made by us to isolate and do selective breeding, then we are just stuck with the irregular looking Aspins.

We can't really consider Aspins as a Filipino representation, since these dogs are also in other countries. If we are to have one of our own, then perhaps we should start finding a unique looking Aspin and do selective breeding to improve it's looks and make it a unique breed that we can show to the world.

[dingo spike]

gud day!its a very nice question which has been thought & tried over the years by concerned or curious experts.i have a copy of the written standard of the ASPIN,which i've photocopied from a book written by a UP professor,which named the ASPIN then as "PHILIPPINE ASO',if im not mistaken its written during the 1970's (the same year the thought of standardizing our native dog).but unfortunately the study/breeding,failed due to several reasons:one is the very broad genetic diversity of the ASPIN which is a great hindrance in producing a purebred animal which breeds true to its type for up to 4 generations (one of the primary rules in accepting a certain breed as a purebred),second,is the difficulty in acquiring uniform breeding pairs as per conformation & type as per geographical location,third is the crossbreeding with 'new' breeds that is being introduced to our island (during those times the JAPANESE SPITZ claimed the spot of the popular breed often crossed with the ASPINS & later the GSD & the DOBERMANN).
other than that,several efforts has been made by biologists both foreign & locally to produced a "PUREBRED" ASPIN but either failed due to the same reasons or has difficulty containing the feral nature of some ASPIN'S or has no government funding or support to further expand the study/breeding of our own native dog or has not taken it seriously due to the attraction that has taken us Filipino's towards the foreign purebred dogs?hope in the future we could be proud of our native dogs similar to the fact that we are,with our "foreign" breeds

WOW very very Informative Sir SO true...... Thank you for sharing. I really Agree of us being more attracted to the foreign breeds, perhaps it's a little too late or us to create our own, but still the possibilities are there........

[dingo spike]

My sister has taken a photo of a really Unique looking Aspin in Gorordo. The Aspin was like any Aspin in terms of size but the color and the patterns is like a cross of a dalmatian and a leopard. To bad her phone got stolen. I have been looking at Aspins lately with unique looks and character, hope we can form a group of people who will initiate a seclective breeding of unique Aspins. I know It's hard but it would be nice.

[humper]

Yes im very amenable to it.the sad thing with our own native dogs is the frequent fact that they are not synonymous by true Filipino pride of adaptability,endurance & toughness but rather with disease like rabies or hostility...a sad fact indeed

[buttmen]

This should have been the priority of any canine orgs or biologists/vets. And it's not impossible. Of course, our aim here is not to come up with a very scientific/strict profile of what an Aspin should look like. Even pure bred dogs are not really pure per se... if you just have to go back or trace its history... take Akitas and some others... or the GSDs that we see on dogs shows-they are really really different from the original GSDs....

[em_b]

or perhaps group breed or family ba na siya. like terrier, spitz, etc composed of similar looking, similar temperament breed. kay i think it is very hard to classify aspin as one breed ra jud.

[buttmen]

Aspins have very patent/distinctive ears and snouts (that's just my observation). We're not talking of genetics here yet, which is not our job.

[buttmen]

or perhaps group breed or family ba na siya. like terrier, spitz, etc composed of similar looking, similar temperament breed. kay i think it is very hard to classify aspin as one breed ra jud.

yup... we could even end up having different kinds of aspins....
like Manila Aspin, or Cebuano Aspin...


the point here is for us to be able to describe what an Aspin would look like

or be able identify if such breed were an Aspin or not (and what kind of Aspin...)