Why do hardware freaks OC'ed?

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Ask ko sa inyong opinion I dont know if existing nani na thread. But still I am asking this to you hardware freaks, why mag OC'ed man jud mo sa inyong videocard, processor, rams etc... to think you already know the difference and probably would degrade and shortened the life of the device.

My opinion first I would not recommend OC'ed bcoz I know the difference on it and I know the risk. Better get a higher specs instead. I would recommend running at regular or stock speed because it will probably make you sure how RIG really fast and how consistent it is.

So kamo unsay inyong opinion?

[limes]

simple ra bro dili ma contento ang mga tao maskin ang pinaka pas2x na naa sa market karon na procies i overclock pa ghaon. well if you know how to overclock plus kau na if dili man gani imo nana risk. anyway who wants to keep a pc thats 10yrs old na. mostlikely if mag overclock di man jud kaau mo naog ang lifespan niya. sa mga tig upgrade sigi maau ni siya kay ma maximize nila ang potential sa ila hardware. if ikaw kahibaw ka na mo perform pa ug better imo system why not overclock? considering na wa kau kay problema sa mga budget ug uban pa.

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mga dagko na silang under sa ilang ASAWA...mag buting-ting na lang na sila sa ilang PC kay di nana sila palaagon ni KUMANDER after work..no choice na jud kay kun molaag..sakit ra sa lawas ang padulngan ..... ako advice kadtong mga bachelors pa diha...aya mo pagminyo aron di mo mahimong alaot na OC'ers hahaha

[0verl0ad]

for me

i overclocked my procie,vc, & ram to make it faster and to lessen my cost on buying high end hardware/s.
i think with proper cooling system you can pro long also the life spand of your hardware. and if you don't have the proper knowledge in overclocking better read about it 1st before trying or consult a friend that has knowledge about it already to avoid damaging your hardware.

scenario:
- planning on buying intel Q9550 2.83MHz cost around 12k +. my current procie now is intel Q6600 2.4 MHz cost me around 6k + notice the price difference. for me i cant afford to buy a 12k procie but i can much up the speed of a Q9550 at stock speed if i OC my Q6600. know running my Q6600 @ 3.4MHz and with proper cooling it can last about 5yrs just enough time to buy another procie that is not too pricey

[Sempron Guy]

There are two kinds of people I know who overclocks. One who overclocks because for them its an art, every successful overclock is a masterpiece, and one, who overclocks simply because they thinks its a waste going for a higher clocked processor knowing they can have the lower clocked version instead and overclock it like h*ll for a cheaper price. A few month ago, I bought the E5200 with overclocking in mind. Then, a higher clocked wolfdale is still available, the E8400. It was sold for about 8k+. I got my E5200 for 3.2k. I saved about 4.8k and that went for my motherboard and ram budget. Mine is currently running at 3.5ghz, faster than any Wolfdale E8xxx series out there, of course cache intensive apps. aside. And durability? Nah, there is no guarantee it would work for more than a year, and that holds true even on processors running at stock. Besides overclocking a few years back is way different compared now. Processors are getting smaller and energy and heat efficient. Overclocking a Pentium 4 a few years ago is almost suicide, I know some people, went to second level cooling <water cooling, even hydrogen > just to reach the 4.0ghz barrier. Now you can oc'ed almost any processor, with relative gains in performance, minimum gain of heat, and by just using air cooling. "And ts, you need to overclock, feel how it's like, to have your questions answered. 'Cause even if we'll explain it out, you will never understand". That is my opinion. Also why the term "freak"? Freaks are locked in cages, they eat people, they force crash planes on towers and put bombs under our beds. Hardware Enthusiast is the most appropriate term. I hope you got my point.

[fineupgrades]

" you need to overclock, feel how it's like, to have your questions answered. 'Cause even if we'll explain it out, you will never understand".

very well said....

[cointoss]

i tweak because i understand OCing from its basics. and so the consequences.
i tweak because i want to get a murceilago performance for the price of a beetle
i tweak for fun and personal acomplishments.
and so the saying goes "tweak at your own risk"

[simoko]

a little background why WE can oc.here is a portion of a recent article from Semicon Manufacturing News:

"Understanding the computer industry, it’s manufacturing practices, and a bit about economics. CPUs are manufactured on wafers of silicon. These wafers are a set size, so only so many CPUs can be manufactured from one wafer. What does this mean for you? It means that, given the same architecture, it doesn’t cost Intel or AMD any more or any less to create CPUs of different speeds. For instance, an e6300 running at 1.86 GHz cost Intel the exact same amount of money to produce as the e6400 running at 2.13 GHz. Why the speed difference you ask? It’s just the way the chips, pardon the pun, fall. Believe it or not CPU manufacturing is not a perfect science. On any given wafer’s worth of CPUs, about 10% don’t even run! The rest are put through stability tests of different sorts and run to their maximum clock levels. Once each chip has been pushed to the failing point, the speed is backed off to a more conservative level, and viola a CPU is born and stamped with a given clock speed (AKA binning). Why are some of these clock speeds so conservative? Mainly because Intel, for example, has no idea where that chip is going. It could end up in my rig with an Arctic Cooler 7 Pro and four case fans…or it could end up in an insufficiently cooled Dell with a flaky proprietary power supply. Either way Intel’s name is on the line as far as this chip functioning as advertised, so they generally err on the side of extreme caution. I digress, in theory, on the same wafer of silicon; you might get some chips that run at 1.86 GHz, all the way up to 3.43 GHz. Neat huh? However, that is not the end of the story. Both chip manufacturers are ultimately in the process of making money. So when a new architecture is introduced, a lot of the times the first ones released to the public are set to very conservative clock speeds, that way in a few months they can introduce a “new” faster CPU, and charge a premium for it once again. In reality, a lot of the time, this “new” chip isn’t new at all. It’s just another chip that for what ever reason ran faster than its wafer-mates. Another interesting thing happens in the CPU industry. It involves large OEMs (like Dell) and large retail stores (like NewEgg or Comp USA). If they wake up one day, call Intel, and ask for 100,000 CPUs of a given moniker. For argument’s sake let’s say the e6300. What happens if Intel only has 60,000 e6300s lying around? You might have guessed it, 40,000 e6400s just magically became e6300s. This is one reason why the lower number chips, as a whole, appear to be better over-clockers. As far as the price difference goes, the higher clocked chips naturally sell for a higher price for two reasons. Demand, and mathematically speaking, there are going to be fewer of them, so supply. In the above circumstance, market share, and sheer volume of sales will usually persuade both AMD and Intel to occasionally re-badge a chip. Sometimes it’s just marketing, for instance if AMD hadn’t been making the faster chips as of late, I’m willing to bet Intel would have charged nearly double for everything in its current Core 2 Duo line up. I’m sure that Intel dropped the price just to give AMD fits and regain some of the enthusiast market share it had lost. Remember, competition is your friend. There are of course a lot of other little things both companies do to make and save money. Special edition chips with the multipliers unlocked (think extreme edition Intels), enabling or disabling some of the cache, and renaming server level chips and selling them as desktop parts (think original socket 740 AMD64s) are just a few of these practices.
I hope what I have stated here today hasn’t overwhelmed anybody. I also hope this helps to answer the age old question of “why does your CPU over-clock better than mine, they are both the same?” Try to remember also, everything stated above applies in part to all of your other computer components. Ever wonder how eVGA and BFG can produce the same Video Card as another company, but with higher clock speeds? Basically, the same thing…they paid a premium for NVIDIA’s “best” chips. Motherboards and some of their parts also fall into the above discussion. There are a lot of other mitigating factors that will ultimately decide the performance of a given CPU, VPU, or whatever; but the above is the key logic behind the entire over-clocking mindset. When I over-clock my poor e6300, in my mind, I’m not running it out of spec…I’m running it right where it should have been."

[simoko]

by the way...i'm no freak...i'm a prefectly sane guy who does not have a ton of money to buy those high-end components so i oc...

here's my poor man's rig:
- Gigabyte G31-ES2C motherboard
- Kingston HyperX T1 DDR2-1066 2x2gb
- MSI N9800GT-OC voltmoded to run @ 720MHz core speed
- Intel Core2Quad Extreme QX6850 slightly oc'ed to 4.2GHz
- Silverstone ST60F power supply
- 500GB SATA HD

i'm happy with it na...

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master, poorman's rig panang naka extreme quaddie unsa na lang kaha diay tawag aning akong PDC hehe