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    Default Dr. Alberto Rivera, Ex-Jesuit Priest Expose the Vatican


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    I have read most of his testimonies published by Chick Publications. Halos dili ko makatoo sa iyang kuyaw nga experience as a Jesuit Priest, pero dunay pang-alkontra ang Vatican sa iyang mga statements. No offense to the Catholics, but personally I believe his statements are true. Nice find bro. God bless!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Bisdak View Post
    I have read most of his testimonies published by Chick Publications. Halos dili ko makatoo sa iyang kuyaw nga experience as a Jesuit Priest, pero dunay pang-alkontra ang Vatican sa iyang mga statements. No offense to the Catholics, but personally I believe his statements are true. Nice find bro. God bless!
    thanks.
    same with you i do believe also his testimonies. vatican was trying to cover everything and hide the information but mao nay gi-ingon "wala gyoy aso nga ma kumkom".

    God Bless you too and may God Bless Us All!

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    ka klaro aning storbot. fyi dili na pari si rivera fraudster na. black propaganda napud ni vs sa mga katoliko. wa na moy lain ani?

    According to the Cornerstone article:[1] Rivera had a 'history of legal entanglements' including fraud, credit card theft, and writing bad checks. Warrants had been issued for his arrest in New Jersey and Florida, and he was wanted by the Spanish police for 'swindles and cheats'; while in the USA in 1967, he claimed to be collecting money for a Spanish college, who never received this money. The details of his claims changed: In 1964 he said he had left the Catholic Church in July 1952, but he later put the date at March 20, 1967; despite this, he was still promoting Catholicism in a newspaper interview of August that same year. Although supposedly placed in the sanitorium in 1965 and held there for three months, he gave the date of his release as September 1967, leaving a period of over a year unaccounted for.

    The document exhibited by Rivera to prove his status as a Catholic priest was fraudulently obtained and the Catholic Church denies his claims of having been a Jesuit priest or a bishop. He had only one sister in London; she was not called Maria, was not a nun, and did not live in a convent. In an employment form dated 1963 he claimed marriage to Carmen Lydia Torres, and the couple had two children in the USA when his own account had him a celibate priest in Spain.

    Cornerstone also questioned Rivera's claim to various degrees, including three doctorates (Th.D., D.D., and Ph.D.), reporting that his known chronology did not allow enough time for him to have completed these degrees and that he had admitted to receiving them from a Colorado diploma mill. Alberto Rivera - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    tungod sa kapowerful sa vatican (in terms of money and human resources) sayon ra sad kaayo gam-an ug istorya ang pagka-fraud daw ni Rivera...

    it wasn't only rivera who's telling this story. there are also numerous authors trying to expose the vatican for what it really is. But sad to say the vatican is untouchable since it's still considered by many as "holy". hehe...

    Don't worry, this is just another one of those "testing your faith" controversies.
    all your minds already made up... anyways..
    Last edited by grovestreet; 11-27-2008 at 06:55 PM.

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    hmmmmmm i think this guy have grudge on the pope ang other priest.. papcy will replace God daw.. kuyawa oi...

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    Quote Originally Posted by grovestreet View Post
    tungod sa kapowerful sa vatican (in terms of money and human resources) sayon ra sad kaayo gam-an ug istorya ang pagka-fraud daw ni Rivera...

    it wasn't only rivera who's telling this story. there are also numerous authors trying to expose the vatican for what it really is. But sad to say the vatican is untouchable since it's still considered by many as "holy". hehe...

    Don't worry, this is just another one of those "testing your faith" controversies.
    all your minds already made up... anyways..
    yeh? like you? your mind has already made up too,

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    yup... so why bother.

    we live in an emergent world full of close minded people. and i'm not a pointing a finger at anyone.
    Last edited by grovestreet; 11-27-2008 at 09:13 PM.

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    Default Ad Hominem Attack Much?

    these attacks on Alberto Rivera's person are Ad hominem. In other words, instead of debating the issue, that Catholic is the power in this earth which oppresses. You attack the person. Alberto is one of the many who has exposed the papacy for what it is.

    You may not know this but many who have exposed the Vatican in similar fasion have died suddenly.

    There was Keith green who wrote the powerful, Catholic Chronicles.
    Keith Green "Catholic Chronicles" Jesuit Assassination of

    Alberto Rivera
    "Dr. Alberto Rivera" Ex Jesuit Father Fr. Priest

    And James (Jim) Arrabito, the man who interviewed Alberto in this video:
    YouTube - The Secrets of the Jesuits (Jim Arrabito)

    And even JFK (listen to his speech on "secret societies")
    JFK Assassination - Vatican Jesuit Connection
    A Catholic Wind in the White House

    Both keith and Jim's planes crashed and everyone on board, died, including a couple of children of theirs on each plane.

    In case you didnt know, both of those periodicals "exposing" Alberto Rivera have an extremely pro-Pope/Vatican stance.

    At the same web site you listed with Alberto's info above they also show how the Vatican run the United States Supreme Court, Red Mass Pictures

    the Presidency, Jesuit Temporal Coadjutor George W Bush and Family

    much of the media and more! Pictures of Papal Infiltration
    Last edited by Abelon5; 11-27-2008 at 10:45 PM. Reason: small typo

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    unsa may labot nla sa Ginoo? kung corrupt ang Vatican, aw impiyerno man ila bagsak bah...bsag unsaon pa nlag pangadgi o unsa pa.

    in short, no matter what speculation or accusations both sides throw at each other, I dont care.

    because what's important is MY individual point of view towards God.

    Because you don't need a priest to show to the Lord that you believe and woship him...I'm sure he already knows that, dba?

    So pasagdii na cla mag.pasangil2 sa usat-usa...wapak ko ana nila..I dont need them in order to communicate to God or to show God that I believe and worship him, so why bother?

    That's just my 2 cents ^___^

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