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    Default To include churches for income tax


    In other countries like NZ for example, people got tax credits when they donate to churches and declare this donations to the government. Others have their own complicated ways of taxing them.

    In the Philippines, churches are uniformly exempted from income tax (not individual). However, they are the noisiest to just about anything up to the point they are apolitical no more .

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    Why Taxation of Religion Matters
    Religion, Politics, and Taxes
    By Austin Cline, About.com


    Tax exemptions may not be the most common issue facing courts in arguments over the separation of church and state, it is one of the most fundamental. Initially it appears to be a form of government support for religions and religious activities; on the other hand, the power to tax is the power to restrict or destroy, so is exempting religions from taxation a means of ensuring their independence?

    Religious exemptions from taxation is no trivial matter. It is estimated that churches and other religious bodies may own anywhere between twenty and twenty-five percent of all of the land in the United States [ so true and even more in the Philippines]. This represents a huge portion of the possible tax base and billions of dollars in potential revenue which could be used to fund schools and other portions of the social infrastructure upon which the churches depend, just like the rest of us. The assets of the Roman Catholic church alone exceed those of the five largest American corporations combined [ so true and even more in the Philippines] and cash donations to churches total tens of billions of dollars every year.

    Every dollar [Peso]not paid by churches or other religious organizations must be made up from some other source. When all tax exemptions are taken into account, it is estimated that the average family may pay up to $1,000 [I can only imagine in Peso] in extra taxes every year to make up for the lost revenue not received from churches and religious groups. This includes sales taxes, inheritance taxes, income taxes, personal taxes, and ad valorem taxes.

    It is thus arguable that all of this money represents an indirect contribution to all of those religious organizations. Because taxes which would go to pay for their share of maintaining society are made up for by the rest of us, they are free to use that money in other ways, for example promulgating their message to a wider audience. They certainly have a right to spread their ideas wherever they wish, but do they also have a right to public assistance in doing so? We have, then, two inter-related objections to religious tax exemptions: they represent a huge amount of money which must be made up by everyone else, and filling that gap may constitute indirect subsidies paid by the public to religious institutions in violation of the separation of church and state.

    Tax exemptions for religious groups have existed throughout American history [don't even mention the Philippines] and are a legacy of our European heritage. At the same time, those tax exemptions have never been total or automatic. For example, some states have broad tax exemptions for parsonages while others have narrow restrictions on such exemptions. Some states have exempted Bibles from sales taxes while others have not. Some states have exempted church businesses from state corporate taxes while other have not. Private donations to churches have also had varying degrees of tax exemptions, while direct payments to churches for goods or services are rarely exempt from taxes. [in the Philippines we have uniform taxation for churches: that they are exempted from income tax]

    Over the years both the courts and various legislative bodies have limited the ability of religions to benefit from tax exemptions. There are appear to be two possible means for this: either by generally eliminating tax exemptions for all charitable and non-profit groups, or by eliminating churches from the classification of charities. [I recommend these ideas]

    Eliminating tax exemptions for charities generally would provide a great deal more money for governments, which is part of the argument for eliminating tax exemptions for religion. However, it is unlikely that there would be much broad public support for such a radical change in the tax code. Tax exemptions for charitable organizations have a long history, and for the most part, people tend to have a favorable impression of them.[This actions need politician with balls bigger than that of the bull]
    The latter option, re-conceiving the idea of charities such that churches and religions would no longer be automatically included, would probably encounter just as much resistance. Currently, churches receive an automatic charitable tax exemption which is not available to other groups — an unfortunate preference. Should churches actually have to demonstrate that they are doing charitable work that entitles them to tax exemptions on their own merits, it is unlikely that they would receive the same extensive benefits as they currently do.

    However, even when religious groups are not involved with any work traditionally regarded as charitable — like feeding the poor or cleaning the streets — but instead focuses upon evangelization and religious study, people still tend to feel that that qualifies as “charity.” After all, those groups are trying to save the souls of others, and what could be more important? [kadakong bakak]

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    Isn't it very hypocritical to criticize others about their behavior when they themselves are making great escapes from paying taxes. Can anyone tell me if the Basilica Sto Nino Church is paying income tax for the business that are in their property, like that one bank?

    I recommend too that the government should tax the churches or make laws that will tax those churches; especially to those who are too involve in the political front. You have no greater right to use your organizations name when you are not paying tax at all.

    I say TAX 'em or shut 'em down. What ya say peps?

    "Give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar. Give to God what belongs to God"

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    may be its good to shut them down.... and people will just pray by them selves at home.... anyway its the faith that counts not the religion.... hehehehe

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    tax 'em! after all, the Church is one of the richest institutions gyud.. DOnations, chuva, whatever they call it, it's still money and represents INCOME. and you're right, langas kaayo sila when it comes to matters of the state and the people, so dapat apil pud sila sa tax uy..

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    Religion is nothing but a big business. Period.

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    when you request the Bishop to celebrate the Mass you have to give 20k that's beside sa mga offerings and envelope. that is standard in our Diocese i don't know for the other Diocese..they should be tax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob123 View Post
    when you request the Bishop to celebrate the Mass you have to give 20k that's beside sa mga offerings and envelope. that is standard in our Diocese i don't know for the other Diocese..they should be tax.
    @rob123, thanks for the info but sad to know that fact. tsk, tsk, mao diay ng minilyon ning balay aning mga tawhana. Send my regards to the bishop of your diocese...give him my middle finger. Hipokrito.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cosplay View Post
    Religion is nothing but a big business. Period.
    especially here in the Philippines.. Using the Church's influence to corrupt people; God help us all..

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    Words of a serpent are deceiving and cold!

    They should be taxed! \m/

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    if you tax them.when you hear mass, you have to pay for you seat. mahal na pamesa, mahal na pa bunyag, when you go to confession, the you will pay the church depending the weight of your sins. and holy communion is P per host. kung 10 mo sa family.you will pay P?? x 10 =?. hahahahaha. joke

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    Honestly, I don't know how I feel about this. In theory, I agree with this (taxing the church). But the money will only go to the bloodhounds in the gov't, and us ordinary folks won't see a single cent of it, I suspect. So, I might just decide to let the church keep all their money. He he. The money I spend on my local church, I willingly give, and it's worth every penny. Church does me good, keeps me from going crazy.

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