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    boss jpn... naa lang ko na obserbahan... since wala naman engine displacement classification....
    what makes it competetive na naa naman advantage ang mga bigger engine.
    for example a stock honda city (1.3) over a stock honda civic (2.0) or a toyota vios (1.3) over mitsubishi lancer (2.0) sa power nalang daan pildi na sa acceleration.

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    maoh jud good point

  3. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by BIG AL View Post
    wait and see team NCR's surprise entry to this autocross...
    NO CARE RACING NA jud....
    murag kibaw ko ani hahahaha sure na diay na lan? lingaw gyud ni tanawon

  4. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by GTlik View Post
    boss jpn... naa lang ko na obserbahan... since wala naman engine displacement classification....
    what makes it competetive na naa naman advantage ang mga bigger engine.
    for example a stock honda city (1.3) over a stock honda civic (2.0) or a toyota vios (1.3) over mitsubishi lancer (2.0) sa power nalang daan pildi na sa acceleration.
    Assuming sa stock class sila...I would believe nga patas ra...kay sa weight, advantage man and honda city..or honda Jazz vs. the Honda Civic 2.0....If I remember correctly the Honda Jazz matched the times of the Civic 2.0s. We'll have to see how this type of classification will work on the next race.

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    mao sab.
    IMO. sa akong na obserbahan and experience, depende cguro sa track. if the track can reach 3rd gear then hopeless gyud ang smaller displacement engine, pero if until 2nd gear lang then naa pa chance ang mga small engine.
    just like kadto sa cicc (2nd leg sa Shago racing) ihaw ang mga gagmay sa dagko... murag man gud to semi-drag race (lingaw hinuon ko ato. he he he) pag starting palang bira na ang mga dagkog engine. mo biya gud ug 3-4 car length.
    anyways... depende hinuon na how u would design the track. whats important is that the track is safe para pildi or daog lingaw gyud ta!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTlik View Post
    mao sab.
    IMO. sa akong na obserbahan and experience, depende cguro sa track. if the track can reach 3rd gear then hopeless gyud ang smaller displacement engine, pero if until 2nd gear lang then naa pa chance ang mga small engine.
    just like kadto sa cicc (2nd leg sa Shago racing) ihaw ang mga gagmay sa dagko... murag man gud to semi-drag race (lingaw hinuon ko ato. he he he) pag starting palang bira na ang mga dagkog engine. mo biya gud ug 3-4 car length.
    anyways... depende hinuon na how u would design the track. whats important is that the track is safe para pildi or daog lingaw gyud ta!

    If kartzone ang organizer...definitely walay "dragrace" area ang atong track...what we want is a flowing track with many turns at moderate speeds and as much as possible engine power will not be a major role to do a good time....but what will give you a fast time is maintaining your momentum on the turns with a smooth flow....

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    yes nors sure najud will get start working on it next wednesday. hehehe na testing nako last month drove it for 2 days. fully sponosored jud na. so pwede na jud no care driving as in no care.
    Quote Originally Posted by norrissee View Post
    murag kibaw ko ani hahahaha sure na diay na lan? lingaw gyud ni tanawon

  8. #58
    gwapo ni da.maka kita na jud ko ani.

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    KARTZONE AUTOCROSS RULES AND REGULATIONS


    INTRODUCTION

    These autocross competition rules are designed to be simple and fair in order to promote the closest competition that is safe and competitive for all participants. They were drafted after considering the autocross rules of the Sports Car Club of America (SCCA). This is a living document, and the organizers will not hesitate to revise the rules in order to ensure that the competition is fair and close.


    SPORTING REGULATIONS

    I. Safety

    All autocross competitors are required to observe the highest standards of motorsport safety. Competitors have the wear the appropriate safety gear and ensure that the participating cars safe and do not pose a danger to the participants or the spectators.

    Helmet – all drivers have the wear a helmet during competition. The helmet may be open or closed face. The helmet must be SNELL certified or certified by any other comparable safety standard.

    Racing suit/ attire – drivers participating in the open category with an open-wheel car or any car that does not use the stock suspension mounts, including half-tube or tube framed cars, must wear a racing suit

    Safety harness/ seatbelt – all participating cars have to be equipped with safety harnesses or seatbelts. Cars participating in the modified category must have at least a three point safety harness while cars in the open category must have at least a 4 point safety harness.

    Mechanical condition – it is the duty of all drivers to ensure that their participating cars are of sound mechanical condition so that it does not pose any danger to either the driver or any of the spectators.



    II. COMPETITOR BEHAVIOUR

    Sportsmanship is held in high regard by the race organizers. Because of this, all competitors are expected to maintain the highest standards of decency and sportsmanship. They are required to respect all race officials and decisions and behave in a manner that is not disruptive of the autocross event. Any unsportsmanlike behavior by any participant or member of the participants team shall merit the penalty of disqualification from the event and/or exclusion from future events at the discretion of the race organizer and stewards. The race director has the right and absolute discretion to exclude any competitor who exhibits any form of disrespect towards the race officials or fellow competitors, or in any way displays any form of disrespectful or inappropriate behavior during the course of the event.

    III. RACE PROCEDURE

    Schedule – the race organizer shall be responsible for posting the race schedule and notifying the participants. Any changes or amendments to the race schedule shall likewise be disseminated to the participants by the race organizer. Participants have the obligation to abide by the race schedule set by the race organizer. Any participant who does not abide by the race schedule shall be subject to disciplinary action and imposed the appropriate penalty by the race organizer.

    Autocross procedure – participants shall be called upon to stage their cars on the starting line in accordance with the race schedule. Each participant shall follow the full race course as designated by the race organizer which shall end in the finish line. PARTICIPANTS WITHIN THE SAME CLASS MUST RUN WITHIN THE SAME PERIOD OF TIME OF EACH OTHER. Any participant who is late and is not able to run together with the other participants for his class shall no longer be permitted to run in such a class. However, in the event that the said class still has one or more runs apart from the one just recently concluded, the late participant may participate in the succeeding runs for his class. Once the timing sheet is closed and printed out for any given run in a particular class, the runs for such a class shall be deemed terminated and no other runs shall be allowed for the class concerned.

    Autocross course - Each participant shall be responsible for knowing the race course. Any participant who incurs a penalty for hitting a pylon shall be imposed a 2 second penalty per pylon. (See penalty rules for details.) Any deviation from such race course, including missing the designated pylons or gates shall constitute a DID NOT FINISH (DNF) result.

    Time trials - The time elapsed for each participant shall be recorded by the timing computer and each participant shall be ranked according to his time in completing the race course. The time indicated in the timing computer shall be the official time of the participant plus the applicable penalties.

    Improbable result – In the event that the time posted by a participant is more than ten percent 10% faster than the current fastest time set by any participant in the particular class, the said result shall be temporarily suspended pending a back-up run. The participant who posted the improbable result shall be entitled to a back-up run as soon as possible. The said back-up run must be made within a period of fifteen minutes from the improbable result and the organizers shall ensure that this is complied with. The participant’s back-up run must be within two percent + or - (2%) of the improbable result for the said result to stand. If the participant fails to back-up the improbable result within 2%, or within the specified 15 minutes, the improbable result shall be nullified for that participant in the stated class. The back-up run is only used for purposes of determining the validity of the improbable result and should not be used as a posted time for the participant, except that a back-up run that is slower than the improbable result by more than 2% shall be considered the posted time of a participant in place of the improbable result.

    No time - In the event that the timing computer registers an error or fails to register a time for a particular participant, the race officials shall allow him a re-run. This decision of the race officials shall be final.

    Number of runs – the race organizer shall determine the number of runs allotted to each participant. However, all participants of a particular class must have the same number of runs. In the event that the number of runs have to be shortened due to a change in schedule, and some participants have already exceeded the number of runs designated, the elapsed times of the latest runs that exceed the number of runs allowed shall be excluded.

    Staging – the race organizer shall designate the proper staging area for the drivers so as not to falsely trigger the timing beam. Participants are not allowed to perform a burn-out or practice start in any part of the race course including the staging area. Drivers shall await the “go” signal from the organizers before commencing their run.


    IV. SCORING AND PENALTIES

    Penalties – penalties shall be imposed on competitors who do not properly negotiate the race course or hit a pylon.

    Wrong course – participants who do not follow the race course, either by missing a gate or pylon, will be given a “did not finish” (DNF) status and the run shall be considered as part of the participant’s allotment.

    Pylon penalties – participants who hit a pylon shall be imposed a 2 second penalty per pylon that shall be added to his time. The race organizers shall ensure that each pylon is placed above a marked chalk or painted box on the race course that shall coincide with the dimensions of the pylon. A pylon shall be considered hit and a penalty imposed on the driver if:

    1.) The pylon is completely knocked down.
    2.) The pylon remains standing but is completely outside of the chalk box.

    A penalty shall not be imposed on the driver if:

    1.) The pylon remains standing and within the chalk box.
    2.) The pylon remains standing and partially within the chalk box.

    V. ASSUMPTION OF RISK AND LIABILITY BY COMPETITORS

    All forms of motorsports including autocross is a dangerous event. Any and all participants of autocross assumes all risks upon registering for and joining an autocross event. Likewise, each participant shall be liable and pay for any damage caused by him on any property of the race organizers or those used in the event or injury to any person in such event. Each participant shall hold the race organizer free and harmless from any damage or liability for any damage or injury caused by the participant, including damage to his own car or injury to his own person. The race organizer shall have the right to exclude and ban any participant from joining any autocross event on account of failure to pay for damages caused or injury inflicted.

    TECHNICAL REGULATIONS

    MODIFICATIONS (MODs)

    The different car classifications are determined by the number of MODs. Under these rules, there are 4 recognized MODs for car classification purposes in autocross, namely: 1.) SUSPENSION MOD, 2.) ENGINE MOD, 3.) LIGHTENING MOD, 4.) TIRE MOD. All cars are compared against a showroom stock model and each MOD is considered in determining the category of the participating car. Each of these MODs are further discussed below.

    ENGINE MOD

    · The internals of and appearance of an engine must be completely stock as it came from the factory otherwise it will be considered a MOD.
    · Headers, cold air intake, change of intake filter, free flow mufflers, free flow exhaust, are not considered MODs.
    · Any internal modification to an engine, such as but not limited to performance pistons, racing cams, bigger valves, port & polish will be considered a MOD.
    · Any external performance enhancements to an engine such as any form of forced induction (i.e. turbo, supercharger, nitrous oxide) would already be considered a MOD.
    · The presence of a performance engine is considered MOD (see attached list for recognized performance engines). A performance engine is defined as one that is rated by the factory with at least 90 Bhp per liter.

    SUSPENSION MOD

    · The suspension must be stock as it came from the factory, otherwise it will be considered a MOD.
    · OEM (ORIGINAL EQUIPMENT MANUFACTURER) replacement shocks and springs are allowed provided that the replacement has the same dimensions, specifications, and performance as the OEM shocks and springs.
    · Any re-valve or re-oiling of a shock is already considered MOD.
    · Any cutting of the stock springs, binding the stock springs is already considered a MOD.
    · Any modification or alteration of the stock shocks and springs will be considered a MOD. The use of aftermarket lowering springs, or performance shocks with adjustable damping are considered MODs.
    · The use of coil-over shocks or sleeve coil-over shocks are also considered MODs.

    TIRE MOD

    · The tires used must have a durometer reading that is at least 70A or harder, otherwise if it is softer it will be considered a MOD.
    · For purposes of this MOD, the softest of the four tires used will be the basis of a car’s classification.

    LIGHTENING MOD

    · The entire car must have complete glass, body panels, interior, and maintain the integrity of the chassis, unibody, doors, and all body panels otherwise it will be considered a MOD.
    · All body panels must be stock and be made of the stock material, otherwise it will be considered a MOD. All interior must be stock and be made of the stock materials, otherwise it will be considered a MOD.
    · All metal body panels must remain metal, otherwise it will be considered a MOD.
    · All body panels must be installed and removal of any one panel will be considered a MOD. However, please see safety rules on which panels are allowed to be removed.
    · The use of aftermarket front or rear bumpers that are not lighter than the stock bumpers, or the addition of bodywork for purely embellishment purposes only, may be allowed as long as these do not have the effect of lightening the car.
    · All glass windows of the car must be stock. Cars may either lighten by performing any one of the allowed lightening modifications: 1.) changing body panels only, 2.) removing interior only, or 3.) changing glass to lexan or plastic or other light material only, or 4.) cutting out sections of the unibody, doors, or other body panels.
    · Should a car have only 1 of the recognized lightening MODs then it will only be considered to have 1 MOD. However, if a car has 2 or more of the recognized lightening MODs, it will be considered to have 2 MODs instead of just 1 MOD and will be classified accordingly.




    SPECIAL CARS

    Factory Hot Rod

    · There are certain cars that have to be classified with certain MODs even if they are run without any alteration. This is because the factory has already modified these cars to perform better that the standard base model.
    · Factory Hot Rods like the different variants of Honda Type Rs, Mercedes AMGs, BMW Ms, and other similar factory modified cars shall automatically be classified as “Super Street” as though it had two (2) MODs unless placed in a different class under these rules.
    · The race director shall have absolute discretion on the classification of Factory Hot Rods and shall post a list of cars that are considered Factory Hot Rods.

    Super Cars

    · Cars that are considered “Super Cars” shall be classified to as though it had three (3) MODs.
    · A “Super Car” shall be defined as a car that has a power to weight ratio of at least 150 BHP per ton. BHP shall be determined by the published horsepower by the manufacturer and this will be divided by the curb published curb weight of the car in tons.
    · Examples of supercars would be the Lancer Evolution, Subaru STI, and Skyline GTR.

    SPECIAL CLASSES

    · Participants may for their own classes provided that there are at least 5 competitors.
    · Examples of special classes would be 4WD, all BMW, Sports car, etc.

    CAR CATEGORIES

    There are four different categories for autocross competition, namely 1.) STOCK, 2.) SUPER STOCK, 3.) MODIFIED, 4.) OPEN. The different categories are classified according to the number of modifications (MODs) a car has. The STOCK category is allowed 1 MOD, SUPER STOCK can have 2 MODs, MODIFIED can have 3 MODs, and OPEN class cars can have 4 or more MODs. Please see the table below:


    Car Class Number of MODs Allowed
    Street 1 MOD
    Super Street 2 MODs
    Modified 3 MODs
    Open 4 MODs

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    I will keep you posted on the Schedule for the Registration and Driver's Briefing.....

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