what will happen to the soul of a person after committing suicide?

**Hellblazer 2.1** · 12-30-2008, 03:48 PM

what made them change their Dogma, bro?

**regnauld** · 12-30-2008, 03:53 PM

Reincarnation & Christianity

Why is it that Christian religions appear to be so opposed to the concept of reincarnation? As it turns out, this attitude is a departure from the origins of Christianity. Nowhere in the Bible is reincarnation repudiated, in fact it appears to be a concept that Jesus and his followers took pretty much for granted. Jesus himself speaks of John the Baptist as the return of Elias (Matthew 11:14 and 17:11, Mark 9:11-13). We must look to the development of the Roman Catholic Church and its doctrines to understand how the concept of reincarnation lost favor in Christian tradition.
The first 300 years after Jesus’ death, there were many variations of Christian doctrine as the new religion spread throughout the Roman Empire. A number of factions developed, some believing in reincarnation, some not, and the factions were frequently in conflict. In an attempt to consolidate his crumbling Roman Empire, the Emperor Constantine in 325 A.D. offered his official support to Christians if they would settle their differences and establish a unified set of beliefs. The resulting Council of Nicaea put together the foundation of the Roman Catholic Church and established a new doctrine, from which reincarnation was omitted. Christians were instructed to drop any belief that was not covered in the doctrine.
However, the belief in reincarnation did not disappear easily, and in fact persisted for centuries afterwards. It the early 13th century, the Pope launched a crusade against the Cathars, a reincarnationist Christian sect in Italy and Southern France, and wiped them out completely. This, and the ensuing Spanish Inquisition with its fatal intolerance for any deviance from strict church doctrine, was finally effective in forcing Christians to give up their belief in reincarnation – at least publicly!
Why should the early church care so much about this belief, which so many early Christians accepted? The truth was, reincarnation undermined the authority and power of the developing church. A believer in reincarnation assumes greater personal responsibility for his own spiritual evolution, relying less on the influence and control of priests, confessionals, and rituals to ward off eternal damnation. None of these trappings of the church were part of Jesus’ original teachings, they were added by the men who shepherded the developing religion. Early Christianity was subject to the same pitfalls many grass-roots movements face when their original leaders are gone. Of necessity, the followers begin to establish a structure and organization to carry on what was given to them. In the process, some valuable elements can be lost and even replaced by dogma that has more to do with practical concerns (like church finances) than spiritual ideals. Reincarnation has never been in conflict with the tenets of Christ’s teachings, merely in conflict with the control wielded by the church.

**regnauld** · 12-30-2008, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by Hellblazer 2.1

what made them change their Dogma, bro?

Actually the early church fathers taught reincarnation and was suppressed later on by the catholic church. One of the reasons were political in nature. I still believe that there are priests out there who still believes in the doctrine of reincarnation.

**Hellblazer 2.1** · 12-30-2008, 04:13 PM

the church doesn't believe in reincarnation, but practices recycling. they like to recycle ancient pagan traditions and brand them as their own. like the most recently celebrated... christmas.

**regnauld** · 12-30-2008, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by Hellblazer 2.1

the church doesn't believe in reincarnation, but practices recycling. they like to recycle ancient pagan traditions and brand them as their own. like the most recently celebrated... christmas.

Belated Merry Mithras / Christmas nalang!

**Hellblazer 2.1** · 10-10-2009, 01:54 PM

what will happen to the soul of a person after committing suicide? CONFUSED.

**miyay** · 10-14-2009, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by Hellblazer 2.1

that person will be stuck in the astral plane because karmically, he/she is still alive in the astral plane with no physical form with which to connect to the physical plane.

are they awake in the astral? if what you are saying is true, it's miserable to be stuck in that plane when a soul is burdened with too much pain, lost of light, hope dimmed...