The Rise of Adolf Hitler - from unknown to dictator of germany

[pnoize]

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dba when you say fact its synonymous to the truth dba? i think it contradicts your first neutral before sa "but" nga statement

Read it again, maybe then you'll understand.

[Ramini]

Read it again, maybe then you'll understand.

care to explain? or dli nlang ka?

[pnoize]

@pnoize

kbaw ka noh..by exhibitng these simple cringing and grimacing by the sight of a nazi swastika symbol is an indirect participation of what the symbol stands for..racism, discrimination..etc. you are still held up with the past..sure they killed millions pero that's the past nman nahitabo nman na that sour face of yours is still a clear message to the neo nazis that the nazi swastika symbol can still harbor racist or should we say negative emotions to the general public and is still viable in sowing discord and hatred in the world..as long as people like you continually give power to the nazi symbol..the neo nazis will still continue in using it..

kahibaw ka noh, i am not a racist but i discriminate. lahi ra ba na.

actually, it's people like you who still give hope to the nazis. it amazes me how people who wear symbols as a fashion statement do not understand it's public implications. yes, what happened in the past is in the past but the past gave our future.

[Ramini]

hahaha!!! how can i give hope to the nazis nga i wear their sacred symbol but i don't share the same sentiments..now unsaon man pag hatag nmog value sa usa ka symbol nga sa imohang gituhuan nga ideology is sacred and dli dapat yanuyanuhon ug sul-ob when most people wear them?..and ang sakit pa jd is if mangutana kas gasul-ob kang neo nazi ba sya..tubagon pa jd ug dli..kai in my opinion that's how you kill the sacredeness of any symbol and what it represents..wear it without regard..i admire gani prince William during one of the halloween events sa windsor castle man cguro to or someplace...he wore a full nazi regalia complete with a nazi armband...and you think the neo nazis are proud to see that?..DLI OI!!! kai ngano?...KAI! si prince William is not a neo nazi? that is blatant degradation of the nazi symbol..and huna2x the symbol is worn for halloween party purposes?!! dli kaha muulbo ang kaspa sa mga neo nazis ana? and to think nga the symbol is sacred to them and shouldn't be worn by any person who doesn't reflect what the symbol echoes...now with your logic does William, Prince of Wales contributed in giving hope to the neo nazis?..iyaha gani for fashion statement ra to.

[diatabz]

Well for me, I think wearing it on your shirt or getting a tattoo of one isn't necessary, it would only upset people who didn't know what you were trying to convey. The confrontation that would follow just isn't worth it. But as I've said, being in Cebu, only a few would really care to pay attention. I've been very fortunate hear a Holocaust survivor talk in our class in college, hence my displeasure of the random usage of the symbol. Yes the symbol has other meanings, and its a little unfair that a symbol intended for peace and luck is associated with the Nazi's, but seeing as most folks do, using it as a tattoo or a patch on your shirt would be disrespectful. It's like calling someone nigga, it might sound cool,hip and "brotherly", but sooner or later, someone's going to point out Jim Crow laws, and Lynch mobs.

[grovestreet]

Well for me, I think wearing it on your shirt or getting a tattoo of one isn't necessary, it would only upset people who didn't know what you were trying to convey. The confrontation that would follow just isn't worth it. But as I've said, being in Cebu, only a few would really care to pay attention. I've been very fortunate hear a Holocaust survivor talk in our class in college, hence my displeasure of the random usage of the symbol. Yes the symbol has other meanings, and its a little unfair that a symbol intended for peace and luck is associated with the Nazi's, but seeing as most folks do, using it as a tattoo or a patch on your shirt would be disrespectful. It's like calling someone nigga, it might sound cool,hip and "brotherly", but sooner or later, someone's going to point out Jim Crow laws, and Lynch mobs.

yup, i think it's the same with christian churches putting the crucifix symbols all over their sacred shrines. Do you think if Jesus comes back from the dead he wants to see the cross again and be reminded of his suffering? hehe just a thought.

[pnoize]

hahaha!!! how can i give hope to the nazis nga i wear their sacred symbol but i don't share the same sentiments..now unsaon man pag hatag nmog value sa usa ka symbol nga sa imohang gituhuan nga ideology is sacred and dli dapat yanuyanuhon ug sul-ob when most people wear them?..and ang sakit pa jd is if mangutana kas gasul-ob kang neo nazi ba sya..tubagon pa jd ug dli..kai in my opinion that's how you kill the sacredeness of any symbol and what it represents..wear it without regard..i admire gani prince William during one of the halloween events sa windsor castle man cguro to or someplace...he wore a full nazi regalia complete with a nazi armband...and you think the neo nazis are proud to see that?..DLI OI!!! kai ngano?...KAI! si prince William is not a neo nazi? that is blatant degradation of the nazi symbol..and huna2x the symbol is worn for halloween party purposes?!! dli kaha muulbo ang kaspa sa mga neo nazis ana? and to think nga the symbol is sacred to them and shouldn't be worn by any person who doesn't reflect what the symbol echoes...now with your logic does William, Prince of Wales contributed in giving hope to the neo nazis?..iyaha gani for fashion statement ra to.

Did you know the repercussions of that incident? Prince HARRY, who wore the costume, was told to by The Queen and by Prince Charles. He had to apologize to the world press and to the rest of the world. In fact, Prince Charles was so outraged he reportedly ordered his sons to visit Auschwitz. A member of the House of Lords was quoted saying that Prince Harry's choice of costume was "Stupid, thoughtless and tactless. Now do you think that, given another chance that he would still wear the ridiculous costume? think again, there goes the fashion statement.

As to answer your question, yes, i think that the neo nazis would've liked it because he was, after all, white.

[Hellblazer 2.1]

i think most people these days don't mind at all if you wear a nazi swastika or not. they just don't care anymore because it's so over-rated.

[Ramini]

It's like calling someone nigga, laws.

THe word niggah or nigger or the N word has been gaining a positive tone karng panahona..example..sa una using the n word is strictly forbidden and is frowned upon maskn asa..but lately it began to change dramatically..the black people began using it in reference to their own race..so lately if your black and you call another black nigger or niggah..then it is acceptable..then other races starts using it pero only to their close black friends..so what im saying is the word nigger has evolved and the racism that was used to be connected with the word slowly dissipated..cguro not in the near future but soon shouting the word nigger or writing it will be nothing na..no one will get offended anymore..pero i guess it's different for the nazi swastika but i am positive about the change that will eventually take place para sa kana na symbol.

[Ramini]

Did you know the repercussions of that incident? Prince HARRY, who wore the costume, was told to by The Queen and by Prince Charles. He had to apologize to the world press and to the rest of the world. In fact, Prince Charles was so outraged he reportedly ordered his sons to visit Auschwitz. A member of the House of Lords was quoted saying that Prince Harry's choice of costume was "Stupid, thoughtless and tactless. Now do you think that, given another chance that he would still wear the ridiculous costume? think again, there goes the fashion statement.

As to answer your question, yes, i think that the neo nazis would've liked it because he was, after all, white.

cguro in a way they would've liked it pero i think they will like it kai perhaps of the negative reaction of william's father..kai..for the neo nazis will take pride jd sa nahimo sa ilahang mga predecessors..it goes to show that the world is still shaken and hasn't moved on from the horrors of the holocaust..in my opinion that's what makes the neo nazis more prouder than ever because people are still choked up with the holocaust..sure, it shouldn't be forgotten pero reacting to it so negatively is enough for the neo nazis to say nga.."the holocaust is our legacy to the world since daghan pa ghapon ang affected"...and by that their audacity will never fade or at least lessen...my point is we should take our usual holocaust reaction into a different level...enough with the grimacing and cringing..because it will never help..it's even nice gani na some people are taking up the positive attitude of killing off the symbol of the nazi swastika..by using it casually wearing a nazi full regalia during halloween is one way of killing the legacy or putting down the hated meaning of the symbol...wearing it on halloween is clearly an act of ridicule...imagina lang gd..an atheist wearing a crucifix..now for an narrow minded person that would mean that the atheist is clearly contradicting his stand since atheist gd siya pero nagsul-ob syag crucifix..pero for those nga mga tao nga naai dako nga understanding that's a clear and blatant statement of ridicule and humiliation for the Roman Catholic religion..unsa kahai comment sa santo papa ana seeing an active heretic preaching heretical teachings but wearing the crucifix...now that's how you kill morale! pero i guess gamai ra ang mga tao who see it that way..so kng mao na na imong stand then cgeeee...