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[bisayadakoo]

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Opinion about Condo/Apartments.

Here is an opinion of my friend regarding apartments. In AUS, they call it apartment instead of condo. He works for one of the biggest apartment developer in NSW and QLD for over 12 years now. They built the World Tower in Sydney.

Living in an Apartment/condo is not luxurious/glamorous at all. So if you are thinking of investing/buying a condo, you should consider this opinion "direct from the horse's mouth".

These are the issues that always come up in a condo but very rare to a free-standing house. Condo salesperson don't discuss this to you.

1. NOISE
NSW and QLD has a very high standard with regards to building codes. But noise problem is always there. You cannot get rid of it. You are ONLY separated by a concrete slab above, below, and the adjacent neighbor (Remember, sound travel faster in solid materials). These is always true if the condo doesn't implement a secondary ceiling. With a 2nd ceiling you can place a batt or similar material for insulation and noise reduction. But this would be an extra cost for the developer thus they rarely implement this. Why extra cost? because the units must be built higher to accomodate the secondary ceiling. And every centimeter higher will cost money for the developer which they will pass to the buyer.


<Example> (for those trolls who are spoonfed from a diploma factory school):

You, wife and kids are having a pleasant dinner after a long day at the office.

Then you start hearing some noise. It sounds like, Oui!...Oui!...Oui!...Jebati!...Oui!...Oui!...Jebat i!!....Oui!...Oui!!.. and is getting louder every second.

Your wife and kids are looking at you wondering what is that noise.

Then you realized that the couple living above you, are "humping like a beaver" on top of their dining table.... Just 3 meters above your dining table.

Then your kids will ask, "Pa, unsa man nang Oui! ug Jebati!?"

The next day you learned that a French expat and his (another Euro) girfriend just bought the condo above you.

Just imagine, you hear that 3 times or 7 days a week. What would do?

You can complain to the Frenchman, the building manager, or the building body corporate. But there's nothing you can do about it. Some people are just to loud when humping.
The expats can do whatever they want in their condo.

<End of Example>


You may say, "I'm not living in the condo". "The condo is only an investment". But still your tenant will be hearing that noise as well And your tenant will complain to you. Even worst move out and ask for a refund. And then you are in trouble with regards to your loan repayments.

I cannot even speculate if you hear a 3rd language above your dining table.
Or even worst, Gays are living above. :0

Buy the Penthouse if you want to live in a condo. Nobody lives above you (exceptbirds or similar

Builders are always the winners in the High Rise Real Estate. The buyers can ride the wave. So it's 50/50 chance for the buyer/investor.


2. BURST WATER PIPES or similar.
Flooding is also an issue in a condo. Even worst if you are living in the lower floor.

The source of the problem could be burst pipe, or the people living above (it could be a few floors above you) are so dumb that the bath tub overflows... or dishwasher is broken...etc.



3. CLOGGED SEWER.
You will notice this when your condo starts to stink. Then you found out that the tenant above, so drunk and stoned, throw some sanitary napkin into the toilet bowl. Thus, clogging the sewer above you. Even worst, the sewer starts to leak into your condo.


The 3 major problems above is very common in a condo. And it's very frustrating because it's not your fault. It's the fault of the people living above, below or adjacent to you.

You rarely see that problems in a free-standing house. If it happens, it's most likely it's your fault.

FIRE. Condo fire is far more difficult to survive than a house fire in the suburb/subdivisions. While the 2nd-9th floor (including fire escape) are burning, you cannot jump out from the 10th floor, and then survive. Unless you are really lucky.

Condo/apartments is only ideal if the land are so expensive, e.g. cities like Singapore, Hongkong, etc.

Lots in subdivisions in CDO, MisOr, NorMin are still at an affordable range.


cheers,
Bisaya Dako

[fallenFate]

tanx bai..hehehe... naa man ko cebu karun.. ang ako lang family akung gikabalak-an didto sa among province...

nabalaka sd ko sa uyab naa sa Iligan karon.. kuyaw uy!

[Aquatic_Girl]

nabalaka sd ko sa uyab naa sa Iligan karon.. kuyaw uy!

nagsugod raba ug gubat gahapon sa kadlawon didto Iligan...

[Mald|3Ta]

OK na man......OK ra wa man ang gubat sa Iligan naa man sa Lanao towns.

den karon nag text ko pwde na mo byahe padong lanao...mo uli na gani aong ante sa baroy krn daw.

[fallenFate]

pero naka-red alert pa gihapon ang mga militar dd2.. dli lng pakompyansa bah..

mura ang Iligan mn gud ang tuyo sa rebelde

[fallenFate]

nagsugod raba ug gubat gahapon sa kadlawon didto Iligan...

lagi.. kato na time ky padong pa Iligan akng uyab ato..mygani Cebu-Iligan na barko iyang gisakyan para no need na xa motravel thru barge & bus from Ozamis.. thank God!

[Mald|3Ta]

aw normal man na i higpit ang seguridad ana man jud na..but sa akong nahibaw-an wala pa na ka suway og g gubat ang Iligan...Ok ra na...d man mahitabo nga mo labaw ang bad sa good

always man sad ko nag monitor sa ako family dd2

pray lng ta

[fallenFate]

^ yeah..Mao jd na ang best solution.. pray.

[bisayadakoo]

there can only be one premier city, because if you will insist, it would defeat the true meaning of the word. it's like saying 3 prime ministers in one country. if the present dictates that davao is the de facto capital of mindanao, let us accept that with open heart because data, statistics, figures, pictures, media, surveys, etc suggest so. and if ever any city will take away that accolade in the future, expect that city to be bigger than davao in terms of economy, urban agglomeration, population, fame, cleanliness, tourist attraction, media mileage and many other aspects one city needs to get the tag "premier" before its name.

the best thing we can do as mindanaoan is present our cities to the world in its present status. there are many good things in cdo, gensan, zamboanga, etc. that we can promote and bank on. i can not understand the essence of saying "try cdo, we will have so many highrises there in the year 2010 or we will be a great city in the next 3 years or so". why not, "come here in cdo because it is a progressive city in its own capacity now and one of the major cities in mindanao." does it need to topple davao by adding values only future can bring just to make a good statement? there's really no need to capitalize too much on the future because every city has its own future. we will never know few weeks from now zamboanga will announce it will build a 25 storey highrise, or HANJIN will move to gensan, or butuan will host a new SM mall, or worst, all project proposals in davao and cdo will be terminated because the investors are all bankrupt due to the oil crisis.

if davao will become stagnant, it will be a bad sign. just like if cebu will slow down and overtaken by iloilo or bacolod. let us be proud of these cities (davao and cebu) instead of trying to beat the hell out of them (i'm addressing to the midsize cities). afterall, they are not "imperial cities". would you believe up to now, the IRA or internal revenue allotment of davao for 3 years is not yet released by the national government? davao city's tax contribution to the national government is a whooping 3 billion annually. but look at what it is getting in return. yet it thrives locally alongside with other major cities here in mindanao in showcasing the might of the island amidst imperialism and commandered atrocities.

if only mindanao will support davao instead of trying to dismantle her. afterall, there can only be one premier city in this island. if CDO, zamboanga or gensan will be 3x greater in 2010, will it come into our mind that davao, looking at the current economy boom it is enjoying now, will also be 3x greater then? lastly, why wait for years to come when we can eat the fruits of our labor now?

The tax contribution of Region 10/NorMin cannot be ignored. But it's the same scenario. NorMin generates a lot of income from industries. But NorMin gets little from the Manila Gov't. This has been like this since Phividec started and that was a long time ago.

And the fact is, Hanjin is making Phividec earn more. And if the Rail system goes ahead, then CIC will be earning more. Because Rail system is far more efficient than hundreds of trucks. In effect, keeping the NorMin Highway last longer.

To me, per capita indicator is far more important than how big the region is making. The higher the per capita, the better the living standard of the people. And when the living standard is higher, that would mean equal distribution of wealth and a happier people. No stingy employers who take advantage of cheap labor.

cheers,
Bisaya Dako

[Farirah]

Opinion about Condo/Apartments.

Here is an opinion of my friend regarding apartments. In AUS, they call it apartment instead of condo. He works for one of the biggest apartment developer in NSW and QLD for over 12 years now. They built the World Tower in Sydney.

Living in an Apartment/condo is not luxurious/glamorous at all. So if you are thinking of investing/buying a condo, you should consider this opinion "direct from the horse's mouth".

These are the issues that always come up in a condo but very rare to a free-standing house. Condo salesperson don't discuss this to you.
cheers,
Bisaya Dako

and like whats your point of posting the relevance of this? are these people represented the cross section of market who are after urban living in style? i come from the state capital city of aus and we are enjoying windfall of property boom spreading out to suburban cities. and these included continued med to highrise apartments developments. if there are losers who were not happy with their investments, the general market were happy and they continued to stimulate property boom.

by you indication, cdo city is not ready for the kind of industry. it will have to go to the direction of horizontal development. it is still a small city by pop standards of philippines cities. or maybe medium size