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Military chiefs vow to uphold Constitution

The chiefs of the major commands of the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) led by Chief of Staff Gen. Generoso Senga yesterday reiterated their vow to uphold the Constitution and follow the chain of command amidst the reported efforts by government destabilizers to divide the military.

Aside from Senga, those who renewed their vow to uphold the Constitution and follow the chain of command were Lt. Gen. Hermogenes Esperon, Army commander; Admiral Mateo Mayuga, Navy flag officer in command; and Lt. Gen. Jose Reyes, Air Force commander.

AFP spokesman Tristan Kison said the AFP, as an institution that keeps the country united under a strong democracy, remains apolitical. Kison issued the statement amid reports quoting detractors that tended to malign the AFP leadership.

Kison said that "puppet masters", who masquerade as credible sources within the military, are always "ready to seize opportunities to sow intrigue, foment dissent and create a general atmosphere of distrust within the ranks of the AFP."

He added that those who want to bring down the government see the Armed Forces’ loyalty to the Constitution and to the chain of command as a major stumbling block to their plan to take over the government.

Maj. Bartolome Bacarro, Army spokesman, said that the "firm stand" of Lieutenant General Esperon, commander of the 110,000-strong Army, against coup plotters has nothing to do with his (Esperon’s) alleged involvement in fraud reportedly committed in the last presidential elections.
Rather, Esperon made his stand based on his firm commitment to his constitutional duty and compliance to the orders of General Senga, Bacarro said.

Lt. Col. Restituto Padilla, PAF spokesman, said the Air Force "will remain professional, dedicated and focused on their assigned mission and that no amount of intrigue, rumor mongering, or false information will derail the programs of the current Air Force leadership under General Reyes."


http://www.mb.com.ph/MAIN2006031458633.html
BY ROY C. SINFUEGO

[FK]

Kison said that "puppet masters", who masquerade as credible sources within the military, are always "ready to seize opportunities to sow intrigue, foment dissent and create a general atmosphere of distrust within the ranks of the AFP."

but most of the reports printed in the papers where also verified by both Senga and Esperon except of course that they supported the plan.

[Freeza]

Kison said that "puppet masters", who masquerade as credible sources within the military, are always "ready to seize opportunities to sow intrigue, foment dissent and create a general atmosphere of distrust within the ranks of the AFP."

but most of the reports printed in the papers where also verified by both Senga and Esperon except of course that they supported the plan.

supportive of the plan mmmm i dont think so maybe more open to the planÂ* maybe more like balancing the pros and cons at most they were informed by the would be dissenters themselves under the cover of they cant control their men anymore of joining the lame edsa s**t...Â*

[FK]

@Freeza
would you agree that this adventurism in the military all started in EDSA I and continued in EDSA II?

Coz the way I look at it, even with all those drama... Military role at that time can still be called a coup (base on admins claim that the withdrawal of support by the military is still a coup).

[Freeza]

@Freeza
would you agree that this adventurism in the military all started in EDSA I and continued in EDSA II?

Coz the way I look at it, even with all those drama... Military role at that time can still be called a coup (base on admins claim that the withdrawal of support by the military is still a coup).

errrrrrrrÂ* i dont know if i remember in the books cause im still stuart at that timeÂ* it does not necessarily started in 86 so called edsaÂ* in 1981 theres a growing dissent among the ranksÂ* its was just in 86 that it was consummated after politiciansÂ* meddle more into the issueÂ* ...Â* after that look what happen ...once mutiny was tasted it is bound to happen againÂ* and again the thinking they are the protector of the people had clouded their professionalism and they are now more prone to political sway a little push of issuesÂ* especially these people power magnet and again their instinct of protector of the people could easly be manupilated... the military especialy the field troops dont deserved these indignity they fought all those rebels and terrorist especialy in insurgent infested country side to kept our country intact..Â* Â* Â*they should be awaken were their level stops ....da@m politicos again ...Â* thats why we need strong leader to stop these infectious ideas once and for all..so the next leader willl have a command of a pro -military= pro security =good economy== and so on

[FK]

@Freeza: can we continue discussing on the AFP's problem thread?

i don't know where we should discuss this and i don't know if my thread that i start is a double post.

[FK]

@Freeza: ari lang ta continue of kors it's the thread that I start so anhi lang ta. hik hik hik.

it does not necessarily started in 86 so called edsa in 1981 theres a growing dissent among the ranks its was just in 86 that it was consummated after politicians meddle more into the issue ... after that look what happen ...once mutiny was tasted it is bound to happen again and again the thinking they are the protector of the people had clouded their professionalism and they are now more prone to political sway a little push of issues especially these people power magnet and again their instinct of protector of the people could easly be manupilated... the military especialy the field troops dont deserved these indignity they fought all those rebels and terrorist especialy in insurgent infested country side to kept our country intact.. they should be awaken were their level stops ....da@m politicos again ... thats why we need strong leader to stop these infectious ideas once and for all..so the next leader willl have a command of a pro -military= pro security =good economy== and so on.

yup it start way before 1986 but they did not make a move because they still believe that a solutions could be attain.
and those two EDSAs I think give them an idea that they are always part of the solution... that's why if a leader is embattled by an issue I think he/she should answer that issue to avoid further polarization in the AFP.

[Freeza]

errr a professional military should be apolitical so i think it is no concern for the AFP for any issues particularly politics..they are in no way trained to interpret political issues...they should just leave it to congress, supreme court and other authorities thats the way things should be.. if they would just be as apolitical as they should there will be no polarization of the service... after all everybody had their own opinion... point of views and perspective..we dont need crazy edsa to remove marcos or erap or now gloria or any other president of this country.


in short its not there job to be a part of a solution on issues like whats happening now its not in their level anymore

[foxtrot]

What we are witnessing now about the AFP I believe are not real serious problems about the whole organization but inevitable events in their attempt to de-politicize or cut their links with self-serving politicians. As we can see those who are involve again are the same individuals who have been ilinked with politicians during EDSA 1 and 2. Para bang may utang na loob na sila sa mga politicians. Kaya palagay ko tama ang move nila ngayon na lumayo sa mga politicians. For the rest of the politcians: may they heed the request of the AFP to leave tham be, so they can concentrate on their main job of confronting all deadly threats to our democratic institutions - the NPAs, Abu Sayaff, Criminal elements.

[FK]

a professional military should be apolitical so i think it is no concern for the AFP for any issues particularly politics..

but then again this issues that the AFP again faces are brought by allegations that the military and some of its generals are involve in cheating in 2004...

as a military officer who was trained in PMA to be honorable and not to cheat, i really find it difficult to accept that my leaders are doing this and in fact even awarded promotions. I may think that this organization that I admired most and think of high regard is being politicized by giving rewards to officers who are sip2x and give political accomodation to a certain politician.