How to stop or solve the poverty in the Philippines?

[unsay_ngalan_nimo]

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Do you think Filipinos are idiots they dont know their advantage? They know but they can become entreprmnurl bec you need some saving for that..

60% to 70% filipinos are living below the govt's measure of survival wage... that is their data..

what do you expect these 70% TO DO> GO INT BIZ>?

yes. small scale business... thats what wrong with the philipines.. our market is being dominated by foreigners.. that is why we cannot dictate our wage rate on our own... necause we work for foreign companies. we make many filipino businesmen.. their tax goes to the governemnt.. filipinos buy to them.. goes to the filipino workers...

basic econ: market has actually two parts the consumer and the producer, but then again the consumer is also a worker.

we encourage workers not just to be mere consumers but also producers. competition is good in a market good for the consumer. the more the producer the more the supply hence we have lower prices. as ou can see in manila they have gas station selling at 22 pesos per liter ng diesel unlike here in cebu which its still peg at 28-20 pesos...

[unsay_ngalan_nimo]

bE REASONABLE. How can there me more bizmen when there are no buyers? no purchasing power of the 70% living below the survival wage? There is limit as to how many bakeries, or jeepneys, or shopping malls you can set up and still remain profitable..

How many of you started selling clothes, ice candy, cakes in your offices? and what happened? you cant raise ur prices. low prices low profit and then you realize its not worth it.

Purchasing power is the key.

as what you say 60-70% of filipinos actually are above the poverty threshold, lets start with saving... and I said SMEs-- small and medium enterprises and not SM or jolibbe like business...

i forgot whats the title of the article but anyway the main bottom line is.. many filipos do not know how to handle their monies. many filipinos lack the knowledge on business. i know some who were able to send their sons and daughters to college through a small sari-sari store that grew.

if we want to go into business we might as well learn it well diba? as what a biz expert said... do something you like and know about and make it profitable.

[unsay_ngalan_nimo]

Protectionism? We had 80 years of protectionism (buy filipino) and what happened?
Filipinos suffered low quality and our biz cannot even compete abroad bec low quality, low produtivity, ..
thats the problem with protectoinsim.. thats basic econ 101.

Education, we are overeducated, our teachers are maids in Taiwan, we are the only maids who are teachers and nurses. isnt that over education?

How can we strentgh our own products when our domestic market have no purchasing power? 70% of the people are lioving below poverty line..

Lets have a "sense of magnitude" the favorite terms of bintulan



c

do yopu know what protectionism is?! the philippines has never in its entire history has experienced such. protectionism is an economic policy that prioritize our own market than others, since the spanish and the tyding mcduffy law protectionism is just a dream for the filipinos. but i might as well tell you that protectionism was used by super powers during the time their market were collapsing, its the opposite of globalization and when we our local markets are strong enough thats is the only time we participate in the global market. As you can see in many countries now many OFWs are being sent home, because their citizens are given the priority to retain their jobs, better some asian to lose their jobs than their own people.

[unsay_ngalan_nimo]

Protectionism? We had 80 years of protectionism (buy filipino) and what happened?
Filipinos suffered low quality and our biz cannot even compete abroad bec low quality, low produtivity, ..
thats the problem with protectoinsim.. thats basic econ 101.

Education, we are overeducated, our teachers are maids in Taiwan, we are the only maids who are teachers and nurses. isnt that over education?

How can we strentgh our own products when our domestic market have no purchasing power? 70% of the people are living below poverty line..

Lets have a "sense of magnitude" the favorite terms of bintulan



c

hello 70%?! id like to point out that only 30-40% of the filipinos are living below poverty line.

quality education.. that is what i mean and not some education. functional education and not some education. our teachers are maid in taiwan because they have higher salary there. but if our teachers are really of good quality they could have taught there. The last time I check a USP teacher is now teaching in US and some other teachers from USC and also UP.

in a saying: "those who can, DO. THose who cant, TEACH." isnt that how our education works.. kinsa ang mga hina kaayo sila ang i gear paramahimong teachers... and those who have better brains are made to be lawyers doctors and engineers...

sir kung wala talagang pera ang mga pilipino sana wala na yang LV store. o hindi na magtitnda ng tag-10k na bag ang rustan's.

we do have a purchasing power kita mo naman maramong imported goods na nasa market, when i say strengthen our products, we have to minimize importation. we have to buy our own local goods. many filipino products have been able to penetrate global markets such as San Miguel beer. because we do not strenthen our own product maghahari sa pilipinas ang mga foreign companies and we as their worker will be at their mercy. by the way if the hyperwage is done under such circumstances, tatakbo ang mga foreign investors sa india and china and many will be jobless.

[unsay_ngalan_nimo]

I dont agree with you. There is NO LAW In physics science chem and math or even economics that say higher wage is not a solution to poverty. Dont make a statement that has no basis at all.

The countries with HIgh wages have better conditions for their poor people relatively. They get health care in Canada, free hospital in Hong Kong, and no potholes in roads in Singapore, and lighted streets in Germany.

Poor are poor, but why do filipinos leave their wives and children to work as laborers in Saudi?

the last time i check.. malaki rin ang mga tax nila. around 40-60% unlike her na 12% lang... that is why they have those free things and not because of hyperwage...

[unsay_ngalan_nimo]

We are not blaming other people for our misery.

But if the govt and the economic leader are USING THE WRONG economic theory and policy that we have been subjected to for the last 50 years with minimal results.

And if we continue to follow their wrong theory, in the next five years, we will be the same, and in the next five years, and the next 5 and before we know it, 30 years have passed and we would be poorer than before..


Acgd to govt data, the number of poor have increased in the last three years..

We shoudl now try a NEW and REVOLUTIONARY theory..

*All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
Arthur Schopenhauer

sige nga has the theory been presented to peoples other than filipinos, kanang mga academician sa economics... mga finacial experts, mga economist, mga consultants... has the paper been published for it to be critic by other economist..

the prblem with moving theminimum wage to a higher value will have a domino effect with the basic goods and services... malaki yung digit pero yung value mismo ng pera wala... ano yan mickey mouse money.. we'll be wasting money in printing the monies...

[unsay_ngalan_nimo]

We cannot solve poverty but.,..

we can uplift the people's conditions

How come HKG And singapore with no natural resources, and evrthng is imported can afford to give high wages to their maids (who incidentally were teachers from Phils)?

Bec, acdg to the hyperwage book, the govt there says: Pay high or dont hire at all

Then, what happened? Biz boomed bec people now have purchasing power.

Poor will always be poor, but in the phils.. maid are actually slaves... (quoting from the book)

There will still be carpenters, newsstands, hotdog vendors, just like in US and Japan and all Hyperwage countries.

Hyperwge Theory will not eradicate poverty but it will minimze it.

HK and Singapore have smaller population. hello kasing laki lang ata ng cebu nag singapore same goes for hong kong. tan-awa sad ang tax sa singpore oi.. tan-aw sad ang ila fines didto... tan-awa sad pila sa mga singaporean educated gyud, dili ka pwede sa govt nila kung wla kay phd. they also have disciple, beside kamao sila mugunit sa ila kwarta... kaya gani sila nihawa sa malaysia kay kadgahanna sa ilaha mga chinese businessmen na treated as second class citizen katong part pa ang singapore sa malaysia.

hello ang japan naka hyperwage pero alm mo ba kung mgakanoa ng isang noodle na kasing dami lang na isang lucky me sa japan? 500 pesos.. eh dito sa atin 6 na piso lang! as what an american said describing japanese prices--- "unresonable"

[unsay_ngalan_nimo]

peggin the minimum wage at a higher value will not change the situation it will cause a domino effect... since labours will be at a higher price then s its products will to result higher basic commodity prices... ang sardinas na tag 8 pesos maging tag 80... hello! ok ka lang!

kahit bigayan m nag isang katerbang pera ang tao kung mababa ang value ng pera niya walang gamit yun...

[hobie]

Start with your self lage.

Be Honest.
Even if others are not.
Even if others will not.
Even if others can not.

[unsay_ngalan_nimo]

Your solution is too long winded and will not affect 100% of the people and interferes with the allocation of resources and capital.

Let the businessmen follow the needs of the people and the free market.

However, any market needs a demand, and there is no demand if theres no purchasing power.

Why is there no Ayala Mall in Davao and Ilo-ilo?

Why no SM Small in Siquijor? They have low wages there!

That is proof that it is purchasing power that is the decision point, not cheap labor.

WHy is Jollibee in USA? Why is SMC in HKG?

do you know the difference between urban and rural areas? kanang mga nasa uraban have higher wages compare to those in the rural areas because barato ila standard of living there... :d ang imong 1k sa rural dako na value itry daw buhi sa manila na 1k ra imo kwarta maka abot ka ha ug one week...

market expansion.. kaya naa sila didto...