Time for a little controversy: CARBS KILL YOU

[ViperRKO]

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As far as carbs being unessential to life, TS is right. Some Eskimos live on nothing but fat and protein.

We all used to do...at least our great x10 grandparents did.

[Metz]

I still like it!

There has been no evidence that really proves ANY cholesterol causes any cardiovascular disease or any disorder for that matter. But the latest findings is that increase in insulin levels (caused by carbs) causes more than just diabetes or being hyperactive it also causes people to binge more coz it raises their appetite after the insulin drops after the rush. But here's the best part...increased levels of insulin have been found to BE THE CAUSES OF CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE.

So here we go...u didn't shoot me down just yet.

I have to agree on this(about the insulin). when I started the all meat, no rice, no wheat diet.
pwede rako twice a day mokaon hehe.

I still need to troubleshoot my HDL ug LDL though. And di pa nako matulon kaayo ang "high cholesterol doesnt cause heart attack" argument.

[ViperRKO]

are you into PaNu bai?

mao sad ako gipractice ron but naa pako problems sa cholesterol, HDL, ug LDL.
nasobrahan ug cholesterol heavy food.

I need to make adjustments pa hehe.

I dunno what PaNu is...I'm just really into exercise & nutrition.

[Metz]

PaNu is Paleolithic Nutrition.
all meat diet sad ila gi promote. no carbs, energy is gained through animal fat.
monitor lang ko ani nga thread hehe.

no carbs, no grains, no wheat, no sugar, no gluten.

[iang]

hala nuh? violent reactions gyud? dli pwd reaction lng? hahaha

[yiennahs]

wait ka kay lain pud ng violent reaction na curse curse ra ill give you my answer as soon as possible hehehe i think this is going to be nice

[ahhh-nhuuwd]

Yup! Rice, pasta, bread, all that stuff.

I'm waiting for all the violent reactions.

yeah right.

[reginakrys]

Ha! I like all ur responses!

Too bad they're all worng.

A person can actually live WITHOUT CARBS. Whatever someone gets from carbs can actually be produced by the body. If its energy you need you can just get that from fat, which brings me to more controversy...FAT IS HEALTHIER THAN CARBS. Our body actually requires a certain amount of cholesterol and if its not supplied with that can cause a lot of illness and deficiency. I don't wanna get into all the science of it all in one post so coz that'll just be too long. So I'm just gonna wait for more people to challenge this claim and we'll see if you can prove me wrong.

true, our body can derive energy from proteins and fatty acids. BUT, carbohydrates man ang pinaka-efficient.. lahi man ang pathway pag breakdown sa 3 different macromolecules, but they converge at some point. like for example, fatty acids can be broken down into pyruvic acid which is a substrate sa krebs cycle = makaproduce gihapon ug ATP ang body. similarly, certain amino acids can be converted into different substrates gihapon sa krebs cycle..

now, why do i say mas efficient ang carbs? when you break down carbs, you need less oxygen than you would when you break down proteins or fats. (research about respiratory quotient for this). also, when you break down too much proteins, mutaas imong ammonia levels (byproduct of protein metabolism), which is toxic (may cause encephalopathy).. on the other hand, when you break down too much fats, mutaas imong ketone bodies (byproduct of fatty acid emtabolism), which can lead to ketoacidosis..

I still like it!

There has been no evidence that really proves ANY cholesterol causes any cardiovascular disease or any disorder for that matter. But the latest findings is that increase in insulin levels (caused by carbs) causes more than just diabetes or being hyperactive it also causes people to binge more coz it raises their appetite after the insulin drops after the rush. But here's the best part...increased levels of insulin have been found to BE THE CAUSES OF CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE.

So here we go...u didn't shoot me down just yet.

you have to be specific about the type of carbohydrates that can cause your insulin levels to shoot up.. simple carbs are the culprit here.. kay sayon ra man sila i-digest so dali ra sad mutaas ang blood glucose = your pancreas increases its insulin production.. pero kung complex carbs, dugay man ma-break down so they don't cause fluctuations sa insulin levels nimo..

really? no evidence of high cholesterol being bad? in my first year of medicine, i've learned that high LDL levels can predispose you to cardiovascular diseases..

[yiennahs]

hehehe giexplainan naman ka ni doc viper û idefend na para naa pa koy madefend

[Metz]

really? no evidence of high cholesterol being bad? in my first year of medicine, i've learned that high LDL levels can predispose you to cardiovascular diseases..

Hi,

gahuwat jud ko ug someone like you. if you dont mind, can you check this post?

Archevore - Archevore Diet

They promote a majority meat diet, no carbs, no sugar, no wheat, no grains, and no gluten diet. Animal fat is the source of energy.

They also argue that a high cholesterol level is not the cause of cardiovascular diseases(but it's not in this post). Although practicioners of this diet, have high cholesterol and high HDL but low LDL.

Galisod pako kay high cholesterol ug high LDL and low HDL ako result hehe.