If there is no God, Who Governs Right or Wrong?

[maddox22]

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One's knowledge of right and wrong depends on how much light he has received from God.

There is right and wrong that is mainly driven by culture. And there is the truth (the ultimate truth) that can only come from God who knows all things.

Katong mga dili mutuo ug Ginuo hala sige padayuna gyud na inyo sige pag-tuo-tuo anang mga scholars and authors. Ma-ilhan ra bitaw na.

[maddox22]

In this case, the state determines (by way of legislation) what it believes to be "morally" good for everyone.

By way of legislation? I don't think so.

[brownprose]

By way of legislation? I don't think so.

Legislation is just only among the acts the state does when it determines what's good or what's bad.

[miyay]

Secular morality is one not necessarily something founded on a religion. For example, there is what social scientists call the Social Contract Theory. Accordingly, the notion of what is right or wrong is defined by societies and from which, the same is entrusted to authorities for enforcement.

In other words, a society's morality can be defined thru the establishment of political institutions to determine common interest (laws and edicts) for the state to perpetuate rather than by religious persuasion or a belief of a god.

Usually, the will and pleasure of its constituents govern the morality of a society.

true just like abortion

[regnauld]

Ultimately, there is no such thing as right and wrong. There is only what works and what doesn't work!

[bluedes]

Ultimately, there is no such thing as right and wrong. There is only what works and what doesn't work!

yeah.. sa machiavellian approach to the art of war philosophy, the output is what matters..
pero not all people subscribe to this..

[grovestreet]

a concept of "God" acts only as a deterrent not to do "bad things" or socially offensive behavior. Just as you use santa clause to control your kids behavior. Behave or you won't get any presents from santa! Well, generally speaking.

[Lovely Charm]

a concept of "God" acts only as a deterrent not to do "bad things" or socially offensive behavior. Just as you use santa clause to control your kids behavior. Behave or you won't get any presents from santa! Well, generally speaking.

yah dterrent, not doing the right thing for its own sake,para skin sir even kung wala talagang god thers still a need to invent one,,sa tingin ko kasi di pa hinog majority ng tao so kailangan pa takotin just to be good,i-ilan lang naman ang kusang gagawa ng tama for its virtue sake, and in due time mag mature then ang tao,

[bodie]

yah dterrent, not doing the right thing for its own sake,para skin sir even kung wala talagang god thers still a need to invent one,,sa tingin ko kasi di pa hinog majority ng tao so kailangan pa takotin just to be good,i-ilan lang naman ang kusang gagawa ng tama for its virtue sake, and in due time mag mature then ang tao,

Good, evil, right, wrong... thats all relative anyway. Morals change over space and time.

People will probably eventually invent a god... true. Pero not for the sake of morals. The Golden Bough by Sir James Frazier is a good reference on the the development of religion and other beliefs.

Morality is adapted a society because it benefits them in some way. Loyalty, piousness, sharing and other positive virtues are generally good for society... its probable that people will adopt them even if there is an absence of belief in god.

[kebot]

Hmmm. this is really interesting. You guys i think is not Governed by Right or Wrong but what works and what doesn't? Its just like saying You are right but for a wrong reason...

Let me share the info i learned...

In the columbine shooting (school shooting). the shooter left a note and said, if "God exist he wont let me feel this way".

Point to ponder:
1. He blame God for not having there.
2. He is confused on what is right and what is wrong.

My personal take on this:
1. I need God to tell me what is right and what is wrong morally.
2. I do not want a member of my family to suffer on this emotion, I better tell him about my God.

This i believe is not a problem of having a God or Religion. Because most Religion teaches compassion, love, affection, honesty blah blah blah.

I believe we need God/Religion. It might happen to us one day.