Life After Death, Do You Believe?

[rcruman]

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bro dili diay tinood nang mo resurrect ang mga dead unya mo transform into incorruptible being ?

tinuod man bro, so kung maresurrect naka, Patay pa ba ka ana or buhi? so dili life after death kay buhion man ka or usbon imo pagkatao.

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

1 Corinthians 15:50-54

Peace!

[Empress_Of_Drac]

Lisod ni nga Topic

When We Die

1. Are we Judge immediately and Go to Heave Or Hell ?

2. To Purgatory ?

3. Are we going Asleep ?

http://www.ccel.org/contrib/exec_out...fe/life_10.htm

The only clear answer as to my point of view is I don't friggin' know...

sometimes it's just easy to believe what we have learned to believe...in that way we are in our comfort zones...obeying what the authority told us...do this and you'll go to that, do that and you'll be like this...

but then no one really know...everything is speculations...everything is "forced" truth...getting answers from the authority and assuming that the authority really gives us the right answer...hahaha...well, that's human nature...but im glad there's still people who get out from their comfort zones and try to search for what is really the truth...

all i can say is everything that is in here are just mere speculations...

[Oakboy]

I only believed on Eternal Life.

Peace!

asa diay ka padulong kaha inig ka matay noh kon naga subay gyudka sa matarong sa mga sugo sa Dios?
kanang Eternal Life rcruman asa mansabta mag laroy2x ana, Pasabot nako ang kalag? so huwat pata sa second coming of Christ for judgement?
dili kaha kining kalibutana mao ang purgatoryo? og ang hell mao atong pagka makasasala? og ang heaven mao atong kagawasan tali sa kalibutanong panginahanglan og kalipay?

[rcruman]

asa diay ka padulong kaha inig ka matay noh kon naga subay gyudka sa matarong sa mga sugo sa Dios?
kanang Eternal Life rcruman asa mansabta mag laroy2x ana, Pasabot nako ang kalag? so huwat pata sa second coming of Christ for judgement?

bro naa man gud outside man og inward man.

16 For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish, yet the inward man is renewed day by day.
2 Corinthians 4:16
og ang inward man mao na ang spirit og mubalik sa Ginoo ang spirit og ang lawas (outward) kay mubalik sa yuta.

7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
ecclesiastes 12:7

taas-taas gyud ni nga topic bro pero hinayhinay lang ta, just keep on asking objectively.

dili kaha kining kalibutana mao ang purgatoryo?

walay purgatoryo og dili ang kalibutan ang purgatoryo.

og ang hell mao atong pagka makasasala?

yes.

og ang heaven mao atong kagawasan tali sa kalibutanong panginahanglan og kalipay?

dili kagawasan kungdi ang bugti/ganti sa ato pagsunod kaniya.

Peace!

[Oakboy]

bro naa man gud outside man og inward man.

[color=green] akong pag sabot ani outside man mao ni silang ma awakened ones then the inward man mao ning ga continue og rebirth until they realize and become awakened also..

16 For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish, yet the inward man is renewed day by day.
2 Corinthians 4:16
og ang inward man mao na ang spirit og mubalik sa Ginoo ang spirit og ang lawas (outward) kay mubalik sa yuta.

7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
ecclesiastes 12:7

walay purgatoryo og dili ang kalibutan ang purgatoryo.

dili kagawasan kungdi ang bugti/ganti sa ato pagsunod kaniya.

Peace!

sa ako langni pagsabot bro nga ang kalibutan mao rapud and porgatoryo basi sa gipang hisgot sa ubang bible scholars nga ang porgatoryo maoni maona..puede nimo e post ang verse nga nag describe sa purgatory?

yes sakto na mao na ang sakto nga pagka sulti, salamat Rcruman ang heaven mao ang bugti sa atong pagsunod sa amahan og mao na ang kagawasan taliwala sa mga kalibutanong kalipay og mga temptasyon..kalipay

[rcruman]

[sa ako langni pagsabot bro nga ang kalibutan mao rapud and porgatoryo basi sa gipang hisgot sa ubang bible scholars nga ang porgatoryo maoni maona..puede nimo e post ang verse nga nag describe sa purgatory?

wala koy mapost nga verse kay wala man sa biblia ang purgatory, even the essence of it.

let me give you a point, in the bible we will be judged according to our works according to what is written.
Yet the doctrine about purgatory will just involved prayer from your relatives or love ones then you will be cleansed. its unfair and because of this doctrine many people embraced this for ease.
Siempre walay rason nga magtinarong ko kay total inig kamatay nako ampoan raman og malimpyo na.
PUrgatory is not biblical it doesn't coincide with the gospel.

PEace!

[angelfyre]

Unsa may belief nimo ana bro ?

i think i stated my belief clearly na

[Oakboy]

wala koy mapost nga verse kay wala man sa biblia ang purgatory, even the essence of it.

let me give you a point, in the bible we will be judged according to our works according to what is written.
Yet the doctrine about purgatory will just involved prayer from your relatives or love ones then you will be cleansed. its unfair and because of this doctrine many people embraced this for ease.
Siempre walay rason nga magtinarong ko kay total inig kamatay nako ampoan raman og malimpyo na.
PUrgatory is not biblical it doesn't coincide with the gospel.

PEace!

ok thanx for ur reply..nag dahom ko naa ni sa bible ang purgatory..tumpak kaayo ang bible "we will be judged according to our works/actions" ..walay lain mo judged nato kundi ang ato rasab nga binuhatan..

[rcruman]

ok thanx for ur reply..nag dahom ko naa ni sa bible ang purgatory..tumpak kaayo ang bible "we will be judged according to our works/actions" ..walay lain mo judged nato kundi ang ato rasab nga binuhatan..

12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
Revelation 22:12

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Revelation 22:12

Peace!

[geoseph]

Matthew 22

31 But about the resurrection of the dead—have you not read what God said to you, 32 'I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob'[a]? He is not the God of the dead but of the living."

[ No one really dies. ]


1 Corinthians 15

21 For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man.

[ Everyone is "resurrected" after material death. ]

44 ... If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.
49 And just as we have borne the likeness of the earthly man, so shall we bear the likeness of the man from heaven.

[ We all have souls (body of the spirit), and it resembles the material the body. ]

35 But someone may ask, "How are the dead raised? With what kind of body will they come?" 36 How foolish! What you sow does not come to life unless it dies. 37 When you sow, you do not plant the body that will be, but just a seed, perhaps of wheat or of something else. 38 But God gives it a body as he has determined, and to each kind of seed he gives its own body.

[ Seed = the material body (that has to die). ]

48 As was the earthly man, so are those who are of the earth; and as is the man from heaven, so also are those who are of heaven.

[ Material body is only for the earth. Soul (body of the spirit) is for the afterlife. ]

42 So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable;
50 I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.

[ What gets "resurrected," in effect, is the imperishable soul (body of the spirit), which leaves the material body behind (it cannot bring it where it does). ]

51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— 52 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.

[ No sleep = no waiting for last judgment. In a flash = everyone gets "resurrected" right after death. Last trumpet will sound = material death. We will be changed = aware of one's self no longer as a material body but, as a soul (spiritual body). ]