Pope’s child porn 'normal' claim sparks outrage among victims

[jangska]

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ahaha. katawa lang ko ani..
wa kasabot kaha nis cla sa ilang gi basa sa bibliya? kilatan baya ka.. hipocrites.

[Morcego]

i believe in God but not the church kay naa diha ang daghan mga hypocrito nagtapok!

[kenites]

You need to take it in the context also of what the Pope was trying to shield the Church from, the widespread allegations that many priests were engaging in inappropriate *** with minors. Hence, it is perfectly understandable that people would think the Pope was rationalizing paedophilia by his peers when he says that "society is increasingly tolerant of paedophilia" which can easily but construed as ergo... its understandable that some of our priests have been touching children inappropriately.

And you totally missed the point of the angry victims here. The pope is wholly out of line in saying that society in increasingly tolerant of paedophilia.. which society is that and which people? That's an absolute load of crap, no country in the world is tolerant of paedophiles. Society is disgusted by paedophilia and most people find it completely revolting. The Church on the other hand, which coddled paedophile priests and silenced their child victims could more accurately be said to have tolerated it. Maybe the Pope is merely projecting his view of the Church onto society, or maybe he's trying to blame society for influencing the priests to do evil, or maybe he is just deluded? I'm having a hard time grasping what point the Pope is really trying to make here by making such a ridiculous statement about society.

What is really happening is that societies (in the west especially) are becoming increasingly intolerant of the backwardness of many religions.

Sakto jud ka bro

Child porno is increasingly acceptable or normal siguro sa ilang society(society of priest). The pope is even coddling a pedophile..But not to the society in general...Be kinsa man daw mo ingon dire nga normal or acceptable ang child porno??

[seven_segment]

So sexually molesting kids is a small issue eh? Hmmmmm..... wanna volunteer your kids for a vacation in the vatican?

small? have I said it?

who says its a small issue?

i am referring to those misinterpreting what the pope said...

sawsawan maayo para mudako ang issue...

[seven_segment]

Hahay, this is just another anti-Pope, anti-church misstatement.

All of you guys I believe are intelligent here, aren't you?

So try to read the article again and try to understand what the Pope was trying to say. Here's the link kay mas klaro ni, Pope’s child porn 'normal' claim sparks outrage among victims - World news, News - Belfasttelegraph.co.uk

It seems like the writer of that report was trying to isolate a statement to make some out-of-this-world issue.

Reading the title of the article makes you think that the Pope was approving child pornography.. My gosh, kalayo ra intawon.. Ka bulay-og jud sa editor sa news.





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correct jud!

sawsawan ni sa mga Universal church haters.....

[loysters]

daghan lagi mag-pataka no? di man to iya pasabot nga normal ang child porno..iya gi indicate ba nga karon panahona gi himo na sa mga taw ang child porno ug normal...pag sure mo oi

I my self am not a fan of religion...pero di unta ta magpataka ug react ba...tsk tsk tsk

[RMK711]

daghan lagi mag-pataka no? di man to iya pasabot nga normal ang child porno..iya gi indicate ba nga karon panahona gi himo na sa mga taw ang child porno ug normal...pag sure mo oi

I my self am not a fan of religion...pero di unta ta magpataka ug react ba...tsk tsk tsk

So which societies are becoming tolerant towards paedophiles? If what the Pope said wasn't utter nonsense, you should be able to name one country in the world where people are becoming tolerant of child molesters and prove it with factual evidence, not mere presumption. Name one country, until then I will continue to say that what the Pope said is completely ridiculous and out of touch with reality to an almost retarded level...

[loysters]

So which societies are becoming tolerant towards paedophiles? If what the Pope said wasn't utter nonsense, you should be able to name one country in the world where people are becoming tolerant of child molesters and prove it with factual evidence, not mere presumption. Name one country, until then I will continue to say that what the Pope said is completely ridiculous and out of touch with reality to an almost retarded level...

"increasingly considered normal" <----meaning padung pa....ayaw ka igo sa word nga society bro...unsa man diay gusto nimo isulti niya specific nga country or group of peoplesakto ka it may not be a country...but the fact is that child molesters and patrons of child porno EXIST

[Alramzz]

basaha pod tawon ninyo ang tanang article woi d lang ng title readers lang, mga imbecile jd! lolx.

[minuteman]

Dunay gisulti ang paring si Gabriele Amorth mahitungod niining naghitak nga *** abuse scandals sa Roman Catholic Church:


From The Times
March 11, 2010
Chief exorcist Father Gabriele Amorth says Devil is in the Vatican
Richard Owen in Rome

*** abuse scandals in the Roman Catholic Church are proof that that "the Devil is at work inside the Vatican", according to the Holy See's chief exorcist.

Father Gabriele Amorth, 85, who has been the Vatican's chief exorcist for 25 years and says he has dealt with 70,000 cases of demonic possession, said that the consequences of satanic infiltration included power struggles at the Vatican as well as "cardinals who do not believe in Jesus, and bishops who are linked to the Demon".

He added: "When one speaks of 'the smoke of Satan' [a phrase coined by Pope Paul VI in 1972] in the holy rooms, it is all true – including these latest stories of violence and paedophilia."

He claimed that another example of satanic behaviour was the Vatican "cover-up" over the deaths in 1998 of Alois Estermann, the then commander of the Swiss Guard, his wife and Corporal Cedric Tornay, a Swiss Guard, who were all found shot dead. "They covered up everything immediately," he said. "Here one sees the rot".

A remarkably swift Vatican investigation concluded that Corporal Tornay had shot the commander and his wife and then turned his gun on himself after being passed over for a medal. However Tornay's relatives have challenged this. There have been unconfirmed reports of a homosexual background to the tragedy and the involvement of a fourth person who was never identfied.

Father Amorth, who has just published Memoirs of an Exorcist, a series of interviews with the Vatican journalist Marco Tosatti, said that the attempt on the life of Pope John Paul II in 1981 had been the work of the Devil, as had an incident last Christmas when a mentally disturbed woman threw herself at Pope Benedict XVI at the start of Midnight Mass, pulling him to the ground.

Father José Antonio Fortea Cucurull, a Rome-based exorcist, said that Father Amorth had "gone well beyond the evidence" in claiming that Satan had infiltrated the Vatican corridors.

"Cardinals might be better or worse, but all have upright intentions and seek the glory of God," he said. Some Vatican officials were more pious than others, "but from there to affirm that some cardinals are members of satanic sects is an unacceptable distance."

Father Amorth told La Repubblica that the devil was "pure spirit, invisible. But he manifests himself with blasphemies and afflictions in the person he possesses. He can remain hidden, or speak in different languages, transform himself or appear to be agreeable. At times he makes fun of me."

He said it sometimes took six or seven of his assistants to to hold down a possessed person. Those possessed often yelled and screamed and spat out nails or pieces of glass, which he kept in a bag. "Anything can come out of their mouths – finger-length pieces of iron, but also rose petals."

He said that hoped every diocese would eventually have a resident exorcist. Under Church Canon Law any priest can perform exorcisms, but in practice they are carried out by a chosen few trained in the rites.

Father Amorth was ordained in 1954 and became an official exorcist in 1986. In the past he has suggested that Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin were possessed by the Devil. He was among Vatican officials who warned that J. K. Rowling's Harry Potter novels made a "false distinction between black and white magic".

He approves, however, of the 1973 film The Exorcist, which although "exaggerated" offered a "substantially exact" picture of possession.

In 2001 he objected to the introduction of a new version of the exorcism rite, complaining that it dropped centuries-old prayers and was "a blunt sword" about which exorcists themselves had not been consulted. The Vatican said later that he and other exorcists could continue to use the old ritual.

Chief exorcist Father Gabriele Amorth says Devil is in the Vatican -Times Online