"Truth" about Islam from an ex-Muslim

[madmom]

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deleting the double post. sorry

[bungot25]

mao na dili gyud ma undang ang dispute sa muslim ug sa mga kristiano, kay isig linabayay nalang
ug bati....lets make this a good discussion to our muslim brothers, lets be fair and respectful to their beliefs...klarohon nato ug han-ayun aron walay gubot..

[Visual C#]

The bottom line? Humans will always find excuses to kill each other. It could be over food, land (lebensraum, anyone?), access to scarce resources, and national pride. It usually is a combination of all four.

Religion just happens to be one of the excuses. Others like Hitler, Stalin, Mussolinni have killed millions in the name of nationalism, not religion. Christians have killed and tortured Muslims during the Crusades, the Inquisition, and perhaps to a minimal extent, during the post 9/11 world. Muslims have done the same too.

So why is there so much hate specifically for Islam again?

[hush232002]

mao na dili gyud ma undang ang dispute sa muslim ug sa mga kristiano, kay isig linabayay nalang
ug bati....lets make this a good discussion to our muslim brothers, lets be fair and respectful to their beliefs...klarohon nato ug han-ayun aron walay gubot..

dang u sounded good brother!

[gshukaku]

There so much hate for muslims cuz of the News...muslims beheaded someone,muslims bombings, muslim rebels...all in the name of their God..maybe thats the reason.

[charmz_fire]

let us not generalized all the Muslim,.
huna-hunaa,..each and every one of us is unique,.
naa tay managlahi nga perception to the things around us,.
there r muslim mn sad na educated and have moral values,.
it doesn't mean gubuot ang mindanao,..tungod na nilang muslim,.
gatuo mo nalipay sila nga gubut ilang place? na d kaswela ilang mga anak kay ang mga bala
nanglupad,.
nah,.mahadlok sila makigtipon sa ubang community kay sungogon ilang anak,.
lguys lets give everyone a chance,..and dont juz judge dem because
of what they beliv,wat they wear, who they r in the community,.

we r all still, FILIPINO!

[konzkript]

the truth about moslem lovers are nagpa cute-cute lang mo.

thats it, pa cute lang. nothing else.

[masterjanuarius]

let us not generalized all the Muslim,.
huna-hunaa,..each and every one of us is unique,.
naa tay managlahi nga perception to the things around us,.
there r muslim mn sad na educated and have moral values,.
it doesn't mean gubuot ang mindanao,..tungod na nilang muslim,.
gatuo mo nalipay sila nga gubut ilang place? na d kaswela ilang mga anak kay ang mga bala
nanglupad,.
nah,.mahadlok sila makigtipon sa ubang community kay sungogon ilang anak,.
lguys lets give everyone a chance,..and dont juz judge dem because
of what they beliv,wat they wear, who they r in the community,.

we r all still, FILIPINO!

For christians: Filipino first and then, christians, catholics, protestants, etc.

For Muslems: Islam first ... and nothing else.

[iDEeN]

Yeah, right ... Loooooooool ... Invading enemies?? Are you joking?? That's not what happened during the "Fatah-e-Mubeen" .. How could you have the audacity to turn things the other way around?? Is that what you tell people (non-Muslims) that you people (Muslims) are the "victims" and the religion actually for a good cause?? It's very funny that you're trying to manipulate me as if I'm an uneducated person and don't have a clue of your religion ... Pffffttt !!!!

Your beloved Mohammed the pedophile attacked Mecca for personal pride and revenge !!! Did you know after the invasion, he ordered executions to those who insulted him?? History: from the very beginning, he went to every Jewish communities, and to every Jewish person he met -- presented himself as the legit " Jewish prophet" .. Of course he got negative response, got laughed at, and ridiculed, so then he formed an army and started attacking every Jewish settlement communities without a high regard of human compassion ...

Islam is pseudo-religious political system responsible for widespread oppression, cruelty, and genocide across the world. This religion is NOTHING but slavery and violence. Sooo obvious!!!

don't get confused and act like an expert because you are not. your history is terrible. If there is someone manipulating here is not me. many times over I have proven your information here to be wrong. You have islamophobia and that's sad.

I don't really understand why you are doing this, to the point of putting yourself in shame para lang to post twisted information about Islam. There is something wrong with your heart. you sound like a man who lives in slum areas wlay paki alam mag iskandalo, very uneducated. mag-away over a chismis.

I know intelligent people is not easily persuaded by mere ramblings of hate, they check and look for evidence and I'm glad that most istoryans here are smart.


here is a brief history of Islam...

After Muhammad had preached publicly for more than a decade, the opposition to him reached such a high pitch that, fearful for their safety, he sent some of his adherents to Ethiopia. There, the Christian ruler extended protection to them, the memory of which has been cherished by Muslims ever since. But in Mecca the persecution worsened. Muhammad’s followers were harassed, abused, and even tortured. At last, seventy of Muhammad’s followers set off by his orders to the northern town of Yathrib, in the hope of establishing a news stage of the Islamic movement. This city which was later to be renamed Medina (“The City”). Later, in the early fall of 622, he, with his closest friend, Abu Bakr al-Siddeeq, set off to join the emigrants. This event coincided with the leaders in Mecca plotting, to kill him.


In Mecca, the plotters arrived at Muhammad’s home to find that his cousin, ‘Ali, had taken his place in bed. Enraged, the Meccans set a price on Muhammad’s head and set off in pursuit. Muhammad and Abu Bakr, however, had taken refuge in a cave, where they hid from their pursuers. By the protection of God, the Meccans passed by the cave without noticing it, and Muhammad and Abu Bakr proceeded to Medina. There, they were joyously welcomed by a throng of Medinans, as well as the Meccans who had gone ahead to prepare the way.


This was the Hijrah - anglicized as Hegira - usually, but inaccurately, translated as “Flight” - from which the Muslim era is dated. In fact, the Hijrah was not a flight, but a carefully planned migration that marks not only a break in history - the beginning of the Islamic era - but also, for Muhammad and the Muslims, a new way of life. Henceforth, the organizational principle of the community was not to be mere blood kinship, but the greater brotherhood of all Muslims. The men who accompanied Muhammad on the Hijrah were called the Muhajiroon - “those that made the Hijrah” or the “Emigrants” - while those in Medina who became Muslims were called the Ansar, or “Helpers.”
Muhammad was well acquainted with the situation in Medina. Earlier, before the Hijrah, various of its inhabitants came to Mecca to offer the annual pilgrimage, and as the Prophet would take this opportunity to call visiting pilgrims to Islam, the group who came from Medina heard his call and accepted Islam.. They also invited Muhammad to settle in Medina. After the Hijrah, Muhammad’s exceptional qualities so impressed the Medinans that the rival tribes and their allies temporarily closed ranks as, on March 15, 624, Muhammad and his supporters moved against the pagans of Mecca.


The first battle, which took place near Badr, now a small town southwest of Medina, had several important effects. In the first place, the Muslim forces, outnumbered three to one, routed the Meccans. Secondly, the discipline displayed by the Muslims brought home to the Meccans, perhaps for the first time, the abilities of the man they had driven from their city. Thirdly, one of the allied tribes which had pledged support to the Muslims in the Battle of Badr, but had then proved lukewarm when the fighting started, was expelled from Medina one month after the battle. Those who claimed to be allies of the Muslims, but tacitly opposed them, were thus served warning: membership in the community imposed the obligation of total support.


A year later the Meccans struck back. Assembling an army of three thousand men, they met the Muslims at Uhud, a ridge outside Medina. After initial successes, the Muslims were driven back and the Prophet himself was wounded. As the Muslims were not completely defeated, the Meccans, with an army of ten thousand, attacked Medina again two years later but with quite different results. At the Battle of the Trench, also known as the Battle of the Confederates, the Muslims scored a signal victory by introducing a new form of defense. On the side of Medina from which attack was expected, they dug a trench too deep for the Meccan cavalry to clear without exposing itself to the archers posted behind earthworks on the Medina side. After an inconclusive siege, the Meccans were forced to retire. Thereafter Medina was entirely in the hands of the Muslims.



see kong mobasa lang ta sa sakto nga source an understanding is achieved peacefully.


this conflict lasted for years...what do you expect in war? ambush,kill on sight kung makit.an ang kontra,pursuit sa mga enemies. those are the things you do during war. The Jews who promised Mohammad protection betrayed him,resulted to the slaughter of many MUslims.

[iDEeN]

@madmom,

nice copy and paste but that stuff had already been rebutted by Muslim Scholars.