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    ^ are you saying it isn't true that he had a 9 yr old wife? pag sure diha oi.. but times were different back then they had different morals, etc. but saying that its propaganda is also wrong, it is a fact that he did have a 9 yr old wife. ask any muslim.

  2. #242
    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    i for one never trust youtube, it is a vessel for propaganda and people making videos just to get noticed and be popular. I only use youtube to watch movie trailers and music videos.

    i suggest people first read the koran and not just listen to what other people say or what articles being written. The Koran has stayed that way since it was written.

    I find it amusing and at the same time annoyed that FAQ said Muhammad's wife is a 9 years old.

    Dont get me wrong, I'm not defending Islam, I have no religion, but seeing these replies can make you think that the source of all the conflict is MISUNDERSTANDING and PROPAGANDA.

    It is like in Christianity; they have the corruption of the Vatican and the church, while in Islam; terrorism. If you look at it, it's but the same, they have flaws.
    It seems that you haven't read the koran.

  3. #243
    the definition of religion and faith is solely based on our perception.
    if we perceived religion whether christainity, judaism or islam as it in the vid then our religion will come out as it is.

    people see and perceived the same things differently. what maybe good for maybe bad for the others.
    after all, you have faith in yourself, then you can become religion itself in your own right...

    yes, it could be a propaganda against islam...

    but why does it when somethings like this came out, there would be lots of reaction and bad things to be said against our brother muslims?
    and when something came out from christians, we just brush it off and laugh it out?

  4. #244
    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    exactly, that is the biggest hypocrisy, look at christianity, pedophile priest, corruption inside the vatican, gay priest, married priests. yes, they might not be killing people, but those are still violations of their law.
    heheheh


    very good, in a society that has predominantly majority (whether it be christian or muslim or hindu or atheist) a bit of discrimination is normal...



    who would condemn himself?

    who would condemn his own institution?

    who would condemn his life?

    who would condemn his own lifeline?



    the biggest mistake is not admitting OPENLY...

    learn from humility and pride

    humility - that you have made a mistake and that you humble yourself to then person you have done wrong...

    pride - that you are a person who can learn from his mistakes and that you are someone who can be better...

  5. #245
    hmmmm.... steaming hot nane dah...


    btw in some countries murag dili ne pwede na thread kay sort of "discriminatory" ...basin e close ne


    hehehe

  6. #246
    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    i've read the koran. that's why i understood what islam is, it's just a religion made when people had different set of morales. And there are a lot of funny teachings. Point here is, why all these hate and propaganda against a religion ?

    and you think that all of the muslims are in favor of the terrorism done in the name of their god/allah? educated muslims condemn terrorism. But 80% of muslims are paranoid, the worst teaching of them all is if you're not muslim, you're an infidel.
    You said, you've read the Qur'an and "Are there a lots of funny teachings"? You mean this book, the Qur'an is a book of jokes? The book that tranforms an ignorant societies into a civil and God fearing men. The book that encourage you to use your senses, reason and logic to ponder the purpose of the Creation.

    And you said that 80% of Muslims are paranoid? You mean the billion adherents of Islam? What a mockery! Judging by what you have said, I think you have to advice all the OFWs who are working in the Muslim Lands to come home and be safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    I find it amusing and at the same time annoyed that FAQ said Muhammad's wife is a 9 years old.
    Hmmm ... So are you saying I'm lying about it?? Pffttt ...

  8. #248
    a selfish individual whether theist or non-theist, christian or muslim will commit/make any forms of violence

    a good means to justify these crimes is through religion, or any kind of idealism

    so if you please, let's stop this generalization
    Last edited by thethird79; 09-25-2010 at 07:31 AM.

  9. #249
    Quote Originally Posted by JcBoY View Post
    You said, you've read the Qur'an and "Are there a lots of funny teachings"? You mean this book, the Qur'an is a book of jokes? The book that tranforms an ignorant societies into a civil and God fearing men. The book that encourage you to use your senses, reason and logic to ponder the purpose of the Creation.

    And you said that 80% of Muslims are paranoid? You mean the billion adherents of Islam? What a mockery! Judging by what you have said, I think you have to advice all the OFWs who are working in the Muslim Lands to come home and be safe.
    Have you read the Qur'an bro? mao na iya conclusion sa pagbasa nya sa book, ikaw? nakabasa naka? unsa may imu conclusion sa book sad?

  10. #250
    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    yes, that book, the koran. But I did not say that it is a book of folly, i only meant it has a lot of funny teachings. The point there is, it is also flawed, just like the Bible of the Christians.

    and yes, most of the muslims are paranoid, that's why i mentioned one of their doctrines IF YOU'RE NOT A MUSLIM, YOU'RE AN INFIDEL, to back up my statement.

    If i were to repeat myself, all these hatred stems from misunderstanding, muslims seeing non-muslims as infidels and thus condemning them and christians seeing muslims as terrorists. It's sad that this is happening.
    1The Qur’an is the greatest gift of God to humanity, and its wisdom is of a unique kind. Briefly stated, the purpose of the book is to guard the previous revelations and to restore the eternal truth of God, to guide humanity to the Straight Path and quicken the soul of man, to awaken the human conscience and enlighten the human mind.

    One must know that the Qur’an was revealed by Allah to Prophet Muhammad through Angel Gabriel in a pure Arabic, one of the Semitic languages that still spoken today. It’s because of the desires of the Muslims to act in accordance with the command of Allah to invite mankind to the Straight Path, that the Qur’an was translated in many languages provided the original Arabic Script should be written besides the translation so as to preserve its original meanings. Though the translation do not do justice to the novelty and the beauty and the superb nature of the Qur’an in Arabic yet in a translation you can still feel whether these are the words of man or the words of God. The Qur’an is the only revealed book that you can still verify its original scripts until now. So, to judge the Qur’an as flawed book just like the Bible, is a sweeping statement in an attempt to discredit its relevance.

    And may I have to correct you that Muslims does not condemn anyone for whatever he believes, because it is the fundamental teaching in Islam that “There should be no compulsion in religion”. So for you to accuse that Muslims condemn anyone for whatever he believes has no proof and a mere propaganda to malign the Muslims.

    2 Muslims also believe that Islam has come to reaffirm the Eternal Divine Message and settle the past religious disputes so that man may embark upon creative constructive activities in all walks of life. This does not mean that the Muslims set themselves apart from or above the rest of mankind. They try neither to impose Islam nor to classify the human race into inferior and superior ranks. They do not entertain the concept of favored and condemned nations or endorse the doctrine of the Chosen and the Gentile. Rather, they are commissioned to convey the Divine Message to mankind and to make their indispensable contribution to humanity. In other words, the Muslims cannot afford to be indifferent, exclusive, or arrogant. It is their solemn duty to open wide their minds to all the realities of life and stretch far their arms to all people of whatever class, creed, race or nationality. The good which they can do and the services they can render will fully materialize only when they put Islam into practice and associate with other people in the kind, humane spirit of Islam.

    1Appendix I, the Qur’an and its Wisdom, Islam in Focus by Hammudah Abdalati
    2Foreword, Islam in Focus by Hammudah Abdalati

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