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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    I see. Do you believe that the Roman Church committed a MORTAL SIN for condemning those people and for burning Bruno at the stake?
    The leaders and those who where involved have sined, not the CHURCH.

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    all of a sudden your interested in my personal take to the church's issue in the early modern period? with all these questions about my personal take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    So, if it was not completely a mistake would you say that it was just purely an accident and the church was just so naive and innocent of her actions?
    Again who have a very disoriented claims, Please read and understand the philosophy, idiology, beliefs and culture and people at that time, maybe somehow you will understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by st.anthony View Post
    The leaders and those who where involved have sined, not the CHURCH.
    Not the Church? And who composes the church? GOD? hehehe

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    sleep nako guys, GOD bless to you all. GRATIA ET MESIRECORDIA

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    Quote Originally Posted by st.anthony View Post
    Again who have a very disoriented claims, Please read and understand the philosophy, idiology, beliefs and culture and people at that time, maybe somehow you will understand.
    I was asking the question and you did not answer. Please answer my question. Thank you mr. LIVING SAINT ANTHONY!

    So, if it was not completely a mistake would you say that it was just purely an accident and the church was just so naive and innocent of her actions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by st.anthony View Post
    I think you must also undersatnd the idea of that time, how everyone understand the idiology and philosophy, culture of those times, Men are not perfect, and we commit mistakes, but what is important the men in authority have learned so much as we, and it was not even hidden from history and it was not even hidden that our imperfect leaders have ask forgiveness for its crimes.
    ang bati lang dha is gamiton dayon ang name sa ginoo or whoever is their god in their religion to commit murder. Okay ra unta nang sila2x ra..pero luod paminawon nga mupatay kag tao kai dli mo parehas ug tinuhuan..much worse is..when muingon kag..mao mai sugo sa akong ginoo nga angay patyon ang mga tao nga dli parehas nako ug tinuohoan...

    and i think the catholic church never really extended their full help for the jews...they didn't even police their own german catholic priests..they just protected their own.
    Last edited by Ramini; 06-08-2009 at 01:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramini View Post
    ang bati lang dha is gamiton dayon ang name sa ginoo or whoever is their god in their religion to commit murder. Okay ra unta nang sila2x ra..pero luod paminawon nga mupatay kag tao kai dli mo parehas ug tinuhuan..much worse is..when muingon kag..mao mai sugo sa akong ginoo nga angay patyon ang mga tao nga dli parehas nako ug tinuohoan...
    TO GOD BE THE GLORY and KILL THEM ALL said the POPE during the CRUSADES! Faetz jud kaayo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramini View Post
    ang bati lang dha is gamiton dayon ang name sa ginoo or whoever is their god in their religion to commit murder. Okay ra unta nang sila2x ra..pero luod paminawon nga mupatay kag tao kai dli mo parehas ug tinuhuan..much worse is..when muingon kag..mao mai sugo sa akong ginoo nga angay patyon ang mga tao nga dli parehas nako ug tinuohoan...
    as ive said, from a purely secular point of view, it was ideological even before "ideology" was born.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Child View Post
    as ive said, from a purely secular point of view, it was ideological even before "ideology" was born.
    Does that justify the mistakes of the Roman Church?

    "The end does not justify the means sire! "

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