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    Quote Originally Posted by unsay_ngalan_nimo View Post
    in capitalism there is competition... and also innovation in terms of products of course...

    ummm.. i think capitalism feeds on man's vanity and wants... but we are all vain... or majority of the people are vain... and many are pleasure seekers and hedonist...
    when you say that people are vain, i think that's a product of capitalism and advertising, to them we are nothing but consumers, we are all raised by television to think that we need this and that and all that crap we don't really need. This materialistic orient of society is what's really corrupting people.

    the question we should all ask is... is competition healthy?

  2. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Dorothea View Post
    Ay sus, nganong argumentuhan man gyud ni nato. Ang naka palpak ani, dili man ang ideas, kita mismo mga tawo. This is because humans are flawed creatures. Nothing we create or come up with will ever be perfect. In short, kadugayan ma palpak ra gyud ta. We are not infallible, we are not invincible. So bisan unsa pa na, ma socialism, communism, capitalism etc etc, these are all human endeavors, therefore, prone to failure. Life's a bitch, and then we all die.

    KaRoger: nakabasa lang ka'g Das Kapital, true blue komunista na dayon ka? Hahaha! I read Gray's Anatomy one time, I am now a bonafide surgeon. LOL
    sak2 jud kaau ko ani....hehehe......

  3. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by KaRoger View Post
    comarade there is a good reason why socialism and communism is not obsolete... what we are experiencing now in the global financial scene is proof enough that we haven't experimented enough on the ideas of communism and socialism... what happened in the cold war, and of the USSR was simply not the perfect socialism and communism. now that the current system is falling apart, i think its time to rethink and experiment and retry socialism and communism... oeace dude way dumot.
    comrade dude, i never said communism is an obsolete ideal. The very death of Marx allows his specter to continually haunt the world scene, the state of foreign debt, the financial crisis, underemployment etc...
    but the manner in which you propose it is very... 1960-70's. quite passe. Although the Philosophers have only thought of the world and the point is to change it, says Marx, i think in our times we have to do alot of thinking because we no longer know we are fighting for, says Zizek.


    and no, the system is not yet falling apart.
    Last edited by The_Child; 02-02-2009 at 11:55 AM.

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    Global financial crisis?

    Just asking sir ha...is it really global? I mean are countries like U.A.E , KSA and other islamic countries experiencing financial setbacks?
    Last edited by Malic; 02-02-2009 at 11:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    Global financial crisis?

    Just asking sir ha...is it really global? I mean are countries like U.A.E , KSA and other islamic countries experiencing financial setbacks?
    the fact remains that we are all screwed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grovestreet View Post
    the fact remains that we are all screwed.
    That's quite an eloquent way of putting it, but I agree. LOL

    *2nd law of thermodynamics, here we come!* LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by erwin_rommel View Post
    wa kay sense ika istorya bro. maayo mong pakungon sa tinuod nga ka roger

    hahaahaha ikaw ang walay sense kay wala kay matter pag toon sa bro kaw... constructive criticism na... para smoeday maka debate ka nako, nga ma challenge pud ko

    or pede pud matulog nalang ka, kay murag na ungo naka sa istorya.net hahahaha PEACE!

  8. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    Global financial crisis?

    Just asking sir ha...is it really global? I mean are countries like U.A.E , KSA and other islamic countries experiencing financial setbacks?

    well countries in the middle east will be the escape goat of the US... we'll see...

  9. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by The_Child View Post
    comrade dude, i never said communism is an obsolete ideal. The very death of Marx allows his specter to continually haunt the world scene, the state of foreign debt, the financial crisis, underemployment etc...
    but the manner in which you propose it is very... 1960-70's. quite passe. Although the Philosophers have only thought of the world and the point is to change it, says Marx, i think in our times we have to do alot of thinking because we no longer know we are fighting for, says Zizek.


    and no, the system is not yet falling apart.

    ahh ic...

  10. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by grovestreet View Post
    i think you have the wrong impression about me. Me agreeing with KaRoger doesn't mean i also support communism or socialism. People really have this tendency to assume that if you're against one party then you must be the other. The system I advocate, is a system all of you have never heard of, one which is updated of the present knowledge of today's society.

    ka2 video imo gipakita nako.... sa socialist party of britain man diay to... i think naka kita nako ato sauna...

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