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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    I think Uri was a Jew. He never mentioned about Jesus and yet he did what Jesus did. The principle was universal. Not necessarily that you should be branded. But if you like, you might want to use your ChrIslamic brand! Pwede sampiton nimo bisan kinsa. Generic is the best like fruit salad ba!

    Ah ok, sounds reassuring..by the way kana bitaw ila gi-ingon na gift of tounge, kanang ako na witness sa mga religious praising & all of the sudden dunay mokalit ug sapid sapid ug dili masabtan na sinultian, angels language sad kuno na, result na sa intense faith, trust sa god that because of its intensity mausab ang imo language, is that part of the sub-conscious mind? talking about intensity ha

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    Quote Originally Posted by flying fish View Post
    Ah ok, sounds reassuring..by the way kana bitaw ila gi-ingon na gift of tounge, kanang ako na witness sa mga religious praising & all of the sudden dunay mokalit ug sapid sapid ug dili masabtan na sinultian, angels language sad kuno na, result na sa intense faith, trust sa god that because of its intensity mausab ang imo language, is that part of the sub-conscious mind? talking about intensity ha
    Very good question Mr. Fish! Let us look at the research about this speaking of tongues in the scientific point of view!

    The passionate, sometimes rhythmic, language-like patter that pours forth from religious people who “speak in tongues” reflects a state of mental possession, many of them say. Now they have some neuroscience to back them up. Researchers at the University of Pennsylvania took brain images of five women while they spoke in tongues and found that their frontal lobes — the thinking, willful part of the brain through which people control what they do — were relatively quiet, as were the language centers. The regions involved in maintaining self-consciousness were active. The women were not in blind trances, and it was unclear which region was driving the behavior.

    The images, appearing in the current issue of the journal Psychiatry Research: Neuroimaging, pinpoint the most active areas of the brain. The images are the first of their kind taken during this spoken religious practice, which has roots in the Old and New Testaments and in charismatic churches established in the United States around the turn of the 19th century. The women in the study were healthy, active churchgoers.

    “The amazing thing was how the images supported people’s interpretation of what was happening,” said Dr. Andrew B. Newberg, leader of the study team, which included Donna Morgan, Nancy Wintering and Mark Waldman. “The way they describe it, and what they believe, is that God is talking through them,” he said.
    Dr. Newberg is also a co-author of “Why We Believe What We Believe.”
    In the study, the researchers used imaging techniques to track changes in blood flow in each woman’s brain in two conditions, once as she sang a gospel song and again while speaking in tongues. By comparing the patterns created by these two emotional, devotional activities, the researchers could pinpoint blood-flow peaks and valleys unique to speaking in tongues.

    Ms. Morgan, a co-author of the study, was also a research subject. She is a born-again Christian who says she considers the ability to speak in tongues a gift. “You’re aware of your surroundings,” she said. “You’re not really out of control. But you have no control over what’s happening. You’re just flowing. You’re in a realm of peace and comfort, and it’s a fantastic feeling.”
    Contrary to what may be a common perception, studies suggest that people who speak in tongues rarely suffer from mental problems. A recent study of nearly 1,000 evangelical Christians in England found that those who engaged in the practice were more emotionally stable than those who did not. Researchers have identified at least two forms of the practice, one ecstatic and frenzied, the other subdued and nearly silent.

    The new findings contrasted sharply with images taken of other spiritually inspired mental states like meditation, which is often a highly focused mental exercise, activating the frontal lobes.
    The scans also showed a dip in the activity of a region called the left caudate. “The findings from the frontal lobes are very clear, and make sense, but the caudate is usually active when you have positive affect, pleasure, positive emotions,” said Dr. James A. Coan, a psychologist at the University of Virginia. “So it’s not so clear what that finding says” about speaking in tongues.
    The caudate area is also involved in motor and emotional control, Dr. Newberg said, so it may be that practitioners, while mindful of their circumstances, nonetheless cede some control over their bodies and emotions.


    A scientific look at speaking in Tongues - ExChristian.Net - News and Opinion

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    so unsa man na reg, subconscious level na kanang mura ni sapid? wala pasad na ma try ug bend ug kutsara?

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    i'd like to add the "silva method" too. the silva mind method is a worthy read.
    very effective. jaime licauco used to teach this.

    anyway, basta positive lang. the universe will conspire for you to get watever u want. dont question how/when/by whom,etc., just think nga u will get it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by flying fish View Post
    so unsa man na reg, subconscious level na kanang mura ni sapid? wala pasad na ma try ug bend ug kutsara?
    Yes. Subconscious in action and the conscious mind reacts or believes in what the subconscious tells the conscious awareness. They (Psychic and Christians who speak in tongues) deliberately programmed their minds and expect it to happen (ex. speaking in tongues, bending spoons). As a result, they got what they wanted. However, this all depends on your intensity of your desire. As what Napoleon Hill said, Desire is the first starting point of all achievements.
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    on spoon bending and the subconscious mind


    in our exercise, we have the image of the spoon bending. or we imagined the spoon to be made of butter. or we imagine our hands to be glowing. bottomline is, kung unsa imong trip. anyway, while holding the image of the spoon bending/or the spoon to be soft, we bend it w/o force, or command it to bend. ni bend ang spoon this is a reli thick spoon btw, ky naa rabay mga pilosopo nga moingon na nipis ang spoon or basin kutsarita ra. some of my classmates gane, they twist the spoon or curl it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelfyre View Post
    on spoon bending and the subconscious mind


    in our exercise, we have the image of the spoon bending. or we imagined the spoon to be made of butter. or we imagine our hands to be glowing. bottomline is, kung unsa imong trip. anyway, while holding the image of the spoon bending/or the spoon to be soft, we bend it w/o force, or command it to bend. ni bend ang spoon this is a reli thick spoon btw, ky naa rabay mga pilosopo nga moingon na nipis ang spoon or basin kutsarita ra. some of my classmates gane, they twist the spoon or curl it.
    See? That was amazing!

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    The Spoon is Bending...Or Is It? (Youtube)

    You guys should watch this. This is what I think what Ms. Tripwire shared with us in concept, in application, and in effect. But I get the impression that what Ms. Tripwire experienced has something 'extra'. A little something which could have been added to the package which really sold the 'phenomena' as a 'real manifestation of telekenesis' rather than an exploration of the psychological nuances (altered states, etc.) of this 'psychic phenomena'.

    But in the light of this topic, Ms. Tripwire's experience can indeed be attributed to the power of the mind.

    EDIT: Regarding this 'extra something': Sorry for being cryptic guys. Its a trade secret, I hope you understand...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alel View Post
    The Spoon is Bending...Or Is It? (Youtube)

    You guys should watch this. This is what I think what Ms. Tripwire shared with us in concept, in application, and in effect. But I get the impression that what Ms. Tripwire experienced has something 'extra'. A little something which could have been added to the package which really sold the 'phenomena' as a 'real manifestation of telekenesis' rather than an exploration of the psychological nuances (altered states, etc.) of this 'psychic phenomena'.

    But in the light of this topic, Ms. Tripwire's experience can indeed be attributed to the power of the mind.


    yah seriously speasking, ive done it in my previouis group (kalimasada) talking about lifting a person using only 2 sheets of newspaper, grabing & pushing a person w/o touching, thuogh its no secret as well w/ the inner circle of the founder of aikido

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    Quote Originally Posted by flying fish View Post
    yah seriously speasking, ive done it in my previouis group (kalimasada) talking about lifting a person using only 2 sheets of newspaper, grabing & pushing a person w/o touching, thuogh its no secret as well w/ the inner circle of the founder of aikido


    And I bet most of us have experienced something similar when we were kids - when you were requested by a group of friends to a secluded area (luyo sa school, sa corner, etc.) You were asked to close your eyes, and they begin to chant together, then your hands levitate on its own without anything in contact with it...

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