RELIGION

[mAlD|tO]

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ahh basta ako to-o ko ginoo og mag buhat og maayo..wa ko labot unsa nang relihiyon...daghan nanga matay anang relihiyon taga adlaw, na gitukod ra sa taw!

[whiteoleander]

I've been waiting for even a shred of proof from MrBiddle to support his insane claim that Tyndale's translation was the first Bible (or New Testament, or whatever) to emerge from Gutenberg's printing press, but so far all we've seen is obstinate insistence but no proof whatsoever. No wonder this discussion is going nowhere. He makes unfounded claims and pretends they have been proven. I think we can see through that.

So I challenge you, MrBidldle. Kindly explain to us how Tyndale's translation became the first Bible printed by Gutenberg when it was printed nearly 69 years after the printing of the Latin Bible (by Gutenberg).

[color=brown]
Because it's the truth....

u cant even prove that tyndale's translation came out first from the Guttenberg's machine . how do you expect me to be convinced by your statements ? i would appreciate facts better over personal interpretation and insistence of your beliefs , i have my beliefs as well, like you do and even insist on it sometimes like you do , but i accept facts if they are presented .

[MrBiddle]

u cant even prove that tyndale's translation came out first from the Guttenberg's machine . how do you expect me to be convinced by your statements ? i would appreciate facts better over personal interpretation and insistence of your beliefs , i have my beliefs as well, like you do and even insist on it sometimes like you do , but i accept facts if they are presented .

kay butbot man tanan balita nga mudefensa nga one true mystical body ang RCC sama anang mga impormasyon na ang RCC kunuhay mao'y gahatag sa Canon sa Bibliya. the RCC and INC are very similar in terms of the self righteous bombast and pretense that it's elders and bishops feed and brainwash the people with.

[dacs]

ahh basta ako to-o ko ginoo og mag buhat og maayo..wa ko labot unsa nang relihiyon...daghan nanga matay anang relihiyon taga adlaw, na gitukod ra sa taw!

Nganong nagbahut man ka ug maayo? Who told you to do good? Your conscience? How do you know that your conscience is inclined to do and have what is good? If you have been following a norm of what is good, then you are into religion. Doing good because God demand it is already a practice of religion. If this is the case for you, then religion is what you have.

I supposed you are not a Christian. Christians believe that their religion is founded by God - Jesus, the Second Person of the Trinity.

[tingkagol]

ahh basta ako to-o ko ginoo og mag buhat og maayo..wa ko labot unsa nang relihiyon...daghan nanga matay anang relihiyon taga adlaw, na gitukod ra sa taw!

Nganong nagbahut man ka ug maayo? Who told you to do good? Your conscience? How do you know that your conscience is inclined to do and have what is good? If you have been following a norm of what is good, then you are into religion. Doing good because God demand it is already a practice of religion. If this is the case for you, then religion is what you have.

I supposed you are not a Christian. Christians believe that their religion is founded by God - Jesus, the Second Person of the Trinity.

He obviously does not want to delve into the confusion and arguments brought about the subject matter. He can describe it however he pleases. Religion is just a name. On the other hand, people also have the freedom to believe how profound a name should be.

Unless you think everyone should view the word the same as you do. Is it a norm?

...and it goes around.

[dacs]

He obviously does not want to delve into the confusion and arguments brought about the subject matter. He can describe it however he pleases. Religion is just a name. On the other hand, people also have the freedom to believe how profound a name should be.

Unless you think everyone should view the word the same as you do. Is it a norm?

...and it goes around.

I understand that you speaking of the word 'religion' here. No, he can't describe it the way he pleases. That is what started the 'confusion and arguments' in the first place. Somebody tried to make the word look dirty and a number of people jumped into the bandwagon. People may have the freedom to believe anything; but if he relishes talking with other people, then he has to follow conventions and norms.

This forum here has even set limitation for anyone who wants to post anything. Look what happens if I write the word 'philosophy'. Does it print right?

No, I don't think that everyone should view the word the same as I do. I believe though that the ontological meaning of the word is best suited for the current argument.

[MrBiddle]

Well, religion according to the Bible that God accepts are blameless is to look after orphans and widows in their distress in other words, put yourself on the line for the needy and to keep one's self from the corruption of this world - James 1: 27

Nganong nagbahut man ka ug maayo?Â* Who told you to do good?Â* Your conscience?Â* How do you know that your conscience is inclined to do and have what is good?Â* If you have been following a norm of what is good, then you are into religion.Â* Doing good because God demand it is already a practice of religion.Â* If this is the case for you, then religion is what you have.

I supposed you are not a Christian.Â* Christians believe that their religion is founded by God - Jesus, the Second Person of the Trinity.

In Christian theology, "being saved by doing good" isn't very certain - Gal. 5: 4 although this is what is believed by many aetheists ... who think that organized religion is a waste of time and that if they tried to make a difference in the world, IF there was a God they will be saved because they merited their salvation (compare against, Eph. 2: 8 - 9 ) I'm talking about the "aetheist's wager"...

There is Someone we have to believe in, believing being the first step to salvation. 1 Jn 5: 13

[richard79]

US/Person------- JESUS ---------- God
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| Good Deeds |
| ETC |

We were separated from God because of our sins and the ONLY WAY to be with God is ONLY AND ONE AND ONLY JESUS! Nothing more nothing less... Good deeds and others doesnt give you an assurance that you will be with God. WITHOUT JESUS it is nothing!

And by the way, i think and this is what i think that Bible versions such as King James version and New International Version are versions that gives no biased on whatever religion reading it. No alterations and very much closer to the latin or the original bible language.

Religious traditions, I should say that one has to follow Christ with ones own conviction and decision to follow Him... NOT because of Traditions. You tend to be contented with what you believed eventhough it was really wrong but still you dont want to get out from your comfort zone because of tradition. You will be blinded with all those beliefs and tradition even how clear the Bible is, STILL you remain in the Darkness.

Another call to open your mind!

[Cardinal Bunal]

WHO REALLY GAVE US THE BIBLE?

[bad donkey!]

I believe even if a person chooses to be an atheist it doesn't mean that he is a bad person just because he doesn't believe in God. Even if a man doesn't believe in God still has the morals and the knowledge what is right and wrong...What religion is doing is telling people that only through them that they can be saved.They are just over rating themselves.....I have nothing against that..A new religion is coming out everywhere..With different sets of rules and principles..If we look at all of them they call to one God...Lets face it religion has been abused and misused through out the ages...Many people got rich and became poor because of religion......The thing is no one can answer the biggest question of all..Which religion is better than the other? if you ask them you will get a self centered answer. We are all the same..We answer to the same God..No one is better thatn the other bisag memorize pa nimu ang bible..pa qoute-quote pa.pareha rata tao ug mamatay ta dili kita ang mag boot kung malangit ta or ma imperno...peace...