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    Default Questions, Opinions about the Rite of Confession


    Opinyon: Pagkumpisal sa pari, gi-acknowledge kaha ni sa Ginoo?

    Una sa tanan, ayaw mo paghisgot diri kun naa bay ginoo or wala ha, daghan na kaayo topic about ana, adto mo didto paglalis.
    Ayaw mo pag off topic diri, basin maglalis na sad mo naa ba'y langit o wala.
    Adto mo pikas section kay kani amoa diri Section Abokado man ni.

    Ang ato diri, gi-acknowledge ba sa Ginoo ang pagkumpisal nimo sa pari? Naa ba'y authority ang pari sa pagbanlas sa imong mga kasal-anan pinaagi sa paghatag kanimo ug assignment kun pila ka Amahan Namo ug pila ka Maghimaya Ka Maria ang dapat pangadyeon base sa imong gitug-an nga mga sala?

    Mas maayo kaha kun modretso na lang ta kumpisal sa Ginoo sa hilom?

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    Default Re: Opinyon: Pagkumpisal sa pari, gi-acknowledge kaha ni sa Ginoo?

    Walay gamit if sa pari ka mukumpisal ky di man sad siya maoy maghuwat nimu did2 sa langit. Ang tua sa langit maoy pangayuan ug pasaylo, dili sa lain tawo nga utro sad wa pay klaro if malangit bah...

    PEACE!

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    Default Re: Opinyon: Pagkumpisal sa pari, gi-acknowledge kaha ni sa Ginoo?

    Mao ni ingon sa biblia:

    5 I acknowledge my sin unto thee, and mine iniquity have I not hid. I said, I will confess my transgressions unto the LORD; and thou forgavest the iniquity of my sin. Selah.
    Psalms 32:5

    so adto ta diretsa sa Ginoo dili sa Pari nga makasala pud.

    Peace!

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    Default Re: Opinyon: Pagkumpisal sa pari, gi-acknowledge kaha ni sa Ginoo?

    The people practicing this belief may be performing it sincerely and wholeheartedly. They are truly repentant and see this practice as their way of repenting of their sins. I believe that matters greatly.

    If we were to question the authenticity of such practice in terms of approval from God, well... in the first place we are not God and thus we don't have any authority to condemned it. We are limited only to logical interpretations and personal conclusions.

    Mine is to investigate the claim as to whether the Catholic priest have the priesthood authority from God. Does he have the same priesthood power and authority of John the Baptist, the same with Peter, Moses, Abraham, Melchizedek, Elijah, all the other priesthood leaders in the Old and New Testament that were able to perform the proper ordinances and even miracles because of this authority? Can this authority he claims be traced from the correct origin who should be the highest priest of all, Jesus Christ? If so, how did he acquire it? (I believe common sense dictates all that a degree in school or a diploma is not the mode for transition of the priesthood authority from one person to another and therefore leads us to discard such issue immediately.)

    I think the most critical point of all is to whether the claim of the Catholic Church that Peter was their first Pope and such authority was handed down to them by Peter is indeed true. If it is and if the Church claims that they still have the very same authority handed down by Peter and that no Apostasy has taken place within themselves that caused them to lose the priesthood, then the question as to whether confessing your sins to a Catholic priest has merit to God should give us affirmation. The same thing follows for every single ordinance and practice of the Catholic church.

    If the claim of the Church that Peter was their first Pope and that such authority from God was handed down to them be false, then everything else is false. All ordinances and practices of the Catholic church falls vain because of the absence of authority. They may bring good to each participants in terms of improving the latter's relationship to God, but still the ordinances that are necessary for ones salvation has not taken place. Nor has it for centuries of practice.

    If one finds answer to this question then it should be a start.

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    Default Re: Opinyon: Pagkumpisal sa pari, gi-acknowledge kaha ni sa Ginoo?

    bro ni na acknowledge ng kompesal..unsaa man tawn gamit ana may man ang pari mo pasaylo ninyo ang ginoo man...hehehehehe


    <peace>

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    Default Re: Opinyon: Pagkumpisal sa pari, gi-acknowledge kaha ni sa Ginoo?

    Quote Originally Posted by geremarv
    bro ni na acknowledge ng kompesal..unsaa man tawn gamit ana may man ang pari mo pasaylo ninyo ang ginoo man...hehehehehe


    <peace>
    kay ang pari diay mopasaylo if mangumpisal?

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    Default Re: Opinyon: Pagkumpisal sa pari, gi-acknowledge kaha ni sa Ginoo?

    Quote Originally Posted by junmar4
    kay ang pari diay mopasaylo if mangumpisal?
    Mao na Doctrina sa Catholic pasagdi lang na cla .. kay ang pari Father man pud so puede ta mo ask ug forgiveness niya then ipasa sa Ginoo daw .. ambot

    Peligro sab karong panahuna labi na sexy ug guapa ang na ngompisal peligro si inday nga makootan ni Father ...


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    Default Re: Opinyon: Pagkumpisal sa pari, gi-acknowledge kaha ni sa Ginoo?

    Quote Originally Posted by geremarv
    bro ni na acknowledge ng kompesal..unsaa man tawn gamit ana may man ang pari mo pasaylo ninyo ang ginoo man...hehehehehe


    <peace>
    murag d man guro ang pari mupasaylo nimo ang ginuo man japon ang pari ky muguide rman na sa nangumpisal..

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    Default Re: Opinyon: Pagkumpisal sa pari, gi-acknowledge kaha ni sa Ginoo?

    The name Peter (Petros) a masculine noun means small rock or stone. In Mt. 16:18 is the first time it is used saying “I will build my church”, a future event when the Spirit is sent and the body of Christ is formed. Jesus said “ I say unto you ,you are Peter (Petros) and upon this Rock (Petra feminine noun meaning a massive rock) I will build my church.” First we see who the rock is, second we see it is Jesus building the church not Peter. it is Jesus who states I will build my church, he protects it and gives increase to it. When we think about a foundation for a building it needs to be reliable, this comes through testing. There is only one who the Bible speaks as the rock that cannot be moved, that is Christ. All one has to do is look at Peter and we find he was moved numerous times showing he cannot be the foundation of the Church. The church is built upon the rock, Christ.

    If Jesus were actually referring to Peter as the rock, Jesus would not have used the MASCULINE word petros for the rock. Jesus instead used a different Greek word for “this rock” a FEMININE word petra indicating something other than Peter. Since the Holy Spirit guided the apostles writings into all truth we should expect the precise words used to convey the meaning (John 14:26; 16:13). Arguments such as they spoke in Aramaic don't hold up either. Maybe they did speak this language but it was written in the Greek and therefore the distinction. The ones that were there and heard what Jesus said wrote it in Greek.


    C PETER WALA JUD NA NAKA ADTO UG ROME base Bible or sa History .. ngano ug na Pope na cia

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    Default Re: Opinyon: Pagkumpisal sa pari, gi-acknowledge kaha ni sa Ginoo?

    Quote Originally Posted by amingb
    The name Peter (Petros) a masculine noun means small rock or stone. In Mt. 16:18 is the first time it is used saying “I will build my church”, a future event when the Spirit is sent and the body of Christ is formed. Jesus said “ I say unto you ,you are Peter (Petros) and upon this Rock (Petra feminine noun meaning a massive rock) I will build my church.” First we see who the rock is, second we see it is Jesus building the church not Peter. it is Jesus who states I will build my church, he protects it and gives increase to it. When we think about a foundation for a building it needs to be reliable, this comes through testing. There is only one who the Bible speaks as the rock that cannot be moved, that is Christ. All one has to do is look at Peter and we find he was moved numerous times showing he cannot be the foundation of the Church. The church is built upon the rock, Christ.

    If Jesus were actually referring to Peter as the rock, Jesus would not have used the MASCULINE word petros for the rock. Jesus instead used a different Greek word for “this rock” a FEMININE word petra indicating something other than Peter. Since the Holy Spirit guided the apostles writings into all truth we should expect the precise words used to convey the meaning (John 14:26; 16:13). Arguments such as they spoke in Aramaic don't hold up either. Maybe they did speak this language but it was written in the Greek and therefore the distinction. The ones that were there and heard what Jesus said wrote it in Greek.


    C PETER WALA JUD NA NAKA ADTO UG ROME base Bible or sa History .. ngano ug na Pope na cia
    mao bah kinahanglan dai makaad2 ug Rome para mahimo ug pope?..

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