K to 12, bakit native tongue ang advise ng DepEd?

[3nZ0y]

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see how stupid that sounds.

no more INTERNATIONAL STANDARD for the philippines

I don't really get your point. Perhaps kay di ko kasabot og iningles? Unsa'y no more international standard nga mao man ganeh na ang main purpose sa K12?

let me ask you: how come my generation was able to understand and comperehend our ENGLISH LESSONS in elementary ?? What's the difference of the children of today and 30 years ago ?

Let me tell you: OUR generation can still fully understand and converse in English. Perhaps not all, but most can. But try teaching a handful of children ages 7 - 10 in pure straight English. Afterward, prepare an examination. Test if they were able to understand the discussion.

I am not against using English as medium of instruction. But to use it just to be proficient in the language while risking their learning capacity is just not right. We have to take into consideration the capacity of the children.

If you ever read the books used by these children, you will find out that they are still in English [except for Araling Panlipunan, MSEP and Filipino]. The teachers only throw in some Cebuano words DURING DISCUSSION so the children can fully understand.

i agree that there are a lot of distractions the kids have these days. But at least, in school, their level of education is high and having English as the medium of instruction will truly help.

The level of education is not as high as you imagine. Using English as the medium of instruction? Noble cause there. But is it really effective?

i'm sorry but in my days, during class discussion, our teachers always use English. Well, it's a private school anyway. But my aunts have been teaching in public schools for over 30 years but they always use english on their students.

Good for you. In my days, the teachers use Cebuano language. Does that give me problems communicating in English? I don't think so. Not to brag, but I believe I can construct 'better' English in verbal and written communication compared to other 'English-speaking' people.

in the future, i'm sure the most common line of the first batch of k12 is UNSA GANI ENGLISH ANI ??.

Twisted argument. I really can't understand what is sooo wrong in using Cebuano language that it threatens English. Even the 'unsa gani English ani' is just stupid. Even Americans could ask similar question, 'what do you call that thing like this and that and so on...'

please remember, that it's not the high school nor college years that defines a student's intelligence, but it's in elementary where the foundation is laid.

I agree. But please remember that for most kids, English is taught in elementary schools. Reality check: not everyone young as seven or eight can understand English.

do you have a son or daughter who's in school right now ? coz i do.

I have a younger sister (10 y/o) and a brother (12 y/o) who excel in their studies and can effectively communicate in English even when they use Cebuano as the medium of instruction. Need I say more?

[3nZ0y]

good for you that your siblings are doing great in school. But i'm talking about the majority here. The level of education in public schools are getting lower and lower.

I agree. Mao ganeh ang aim sa K12: raising the quality of our education.

The infrastructure of the schools themselves are so substandard that it looks like a prison cell. 70 students in one classroom, no books, no chairs and now, they're doing this, to use the dialect as the means to teach. I'm sorry but i don't see this as a move to improve the country.

Basin kani makatabang ni:

PIA | Philippine Information Agency | DepEd set to start mother tongue-based instruction in public schools in SY 2012-2013

Naa diha pipila ka rason ngano gi-dasig ang paggamit sa local dialect. Again, ang advice sa DepEd is to use the local dialect from Kinder to Grade3 ra.

2. Mother Tongue-Based Multilingual Education. The mother tongue will be the medium of instruction from kindergarten to grade 3. This includes the following: Tagalog, Kapampangan, Pangasinense, Iloko, Bikol, Cebuano, Hiligaynon, Waray, Tausug, Maguindanaoan, Maranao, and Chabacano. Medium of instruction will be English and Filipino starting grade 4.[6]

see: The K to 12 Basic Education Program | Official Gazette of the Republic of the Philippines

Credits to salbahis for the links. It has been posted sa first page, but I guess dili tanan mo backread so I decided to post them here.

[mja]

good for you that your siblings are doing great in school. But i'm talking about the majority here. The level of education in public schools are getting lower and lower. The infrastructure of the schools themselves are so substandard that it looks like a prison cell. 70 students in one classroom, no books, no chairs and now, they're doing this, to use the dialect as the means to teach. I'm sorry but i don't see this as a move to improve the country.

yes true.my sister is studying in a public school they were more than 50 in 1 classroom and her school before they were 60 up in one classroom.they bring their own chairs their table grabe butas-butas.the teacher cant accommodate all of them.so mapasagdaan nlng mabulabog hasta ang naminaw ky dli na kabadlong ang teacher.i understand nga k to 12 ilang aim is good pero unta giuna ang additional teachers,rooms,chairs,tables,books,computers etc.before sila ni implement ani..just a thought lang....

[mja]

that is exactly my point. Why change the curriculum when the problem is the LACK OF EVERYTHING. Lack of rooms, lack of chairs, lack of teachers, lack of books... the list goes on.

mao jud....ambot kaha if masulbad na nga nagkadahan man ang bata sa ph..pero hope ma ok

[Lt.Lance]

gnahan nko buhi-on ni. nalingaw ko sa prinsipyo sa uban. UN na nag ingon ana.

International Mother Language Day
First language - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
International Mother Language Day | United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization
Mother Tongue Multilingual Education | Education | United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization

[newbie.86]

naa man gud diha ang cultural value sa mother tongue.

maka appreciate kog mother tongue nga itudlo sa mga kids,
kay honestly, hilasan ko sa mga kids nga di kibaw magbisaya!
haha.. mag nosebleed ko sahay nila. especially magtapad mis mga kids nga gkan private skool.

blame it on my """burgis"" (bourgeoise) background being a product of public school up to college.

but i-expose pud nuon cla sa english, kay ang 5-7yo mao man ang age nga madevelop nila ang correct phonetics.

[onig.heck]

If you just try to observe sa mga public schools, mas han-ay og maayu ang pagkatudlo sa mga bata nga binisya ang pinulungan... It only applies to grades 1-3 kay ang mga bata nag kat-on pa man na og storya... naa man sila subject na English as an introduction but ang medium of instruction with other subjects kay binisaya... during exams gyud kay mao gyud nay kasagaran problema sa mga bata kay makamao man unta pero dili lang kasabot sa instructions nga english mao nang masayop na nuon og answer... I used to teach sa public schools but mas mo prefer ko nga nibisaya sa lower grades as what the Law of readiness implies to...

[Egoist]

what is the use of the message if one cannot understand the content

[Bears Grill]

The issue really boils down to: what will get the job done (in terms of effectively teaching the essential skills that every child should have, like math, science, computer skills, communication skills, critical thinking, etc)?

In my opinion, English would be the best medium for teaching the highly technical subjects like math, science, computers, etc. However, I do understand that, in public schools, kids would be averse to actually speaking in English. They're likely to be labelled as arrogant, pa-sosyal, etc. This is unfortunate since these kids would be missing out on the rich world of ideas written in English.

What makes our attitudes toward the English language worse are those advertisements that suggest the superiority of Tagalog over English, as in the scene where the father asks his son the English word for "bayanihan" and the child answers "Hindi yan kaya ng English." REALLY? Ask yourself, which is more likely: that the President of the Philippines use an English word or two in his Tagalog speech or that Barrack Obama would use a Tagalog word because there's no such equivalent in English?

However, if teaching depends on how well the teachers make their students understand and if that means teaching the subject in the mother tongue, then by all means use the mother tongue. But seriously...science, math, computers in the mother tongue? Good luck with that.

[Sarevok]

kahibaw ba mo na mao ni ang edge sa mga pinoy sa uban asian countries. kanang english gamit pagtudlo since nursery. if tangtangon na kay maglisod na sa english ang mga pinoy.