Your Thoughts on 'Deception'...

[Alel]

(Naghimo lang ko separate thread for a budding out-of-topic discussion sa other thread. Para dili na mapun-an ang OT's didto. )

The 'guide question' for this discussion:

Do you feel that deception is at all times negative and as much as possible shunned?


Here is the replies so far:

@Soul Doctor:

How do you feel about "deceiving as long as you do not harm anybody in the process"?

Just curious about your view on this...

You mean like the
The last leaf story.

What if you are in this position?:

If your buddy in combat is dying.
He got hit badly.
And there is no hope that he will live.
Your side is losing the battle.
Your buddy asks you this:
"Are we winning?"
What would you answer?

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this kind of discussion is better cause it creates muscle to the brain, engaging the mind to a fresh approach, & may consider conventional thinking to weigh w/c is best at a specific given time & place..This is what we call training the mind on "how to think" & not just what to think..

to my understanding deception to hurt or to exploit is one thing, to mis inform a person out of compassion is another,,for me at a times one has to consider the recepients capacity to handle truth, if it will only do more harm than good, then i guess better choose kindness(if it means not telling lies) over honesty, for all we know a person can be so insensitive to prefer honesty for the sake of his own personal aggrandizement..Feeding ones own ego, under the guise of being honest.

KRISHNAMURTI once said, "Study then & be wise, not that men may think you are wise, or you have the happiness of being wise, but because only the wise men can be wisely helpful".

Continue lang ta diri...

[regnauld]

Do you feel that deception is at all times negative and as much as possible shunned?

For me, not at all. How do we know what is right ad what is wrong for ourselves when in one case a behavior is moral while in another case the same behavior is called immoral? The answer to this dilemma is found only when you trust your true Self. Then you will immediately know when you have done something wrong because you will feel bad about yourself. Likewise, you will know when you are right because you will feel good about yourself. This is different from the process that occurs when the ego is in charge. Then you will look to others in order to know if what you have done is right or wrong. You will rank the opinion of others over your own conscience. A good example of trusting yourself occurs when you learn to value TRUTH over honesty. Being true to yourself, who you are and what you are, is far more important than adhering to a policy of complete honesty. Using honesty as an excuse to hurt someone is not moral. Furthermore, honesty can often be situational and dependent upon your emotional state (" I hate you when I'm mad at you"); your feelings will pass, but your true SELF remains constant ("I love you, but my ego hates you when you don't obey me. This is my problem, not yours")

[munzter666]

i say deception is good...as long as they(the deceived) doesn't know they're being deceived.hahaha

the only trouble with bullsh!ts...is they stink. and when people start noticing that weird smell, they get do get pissed, most of them do.