:DUAL CORE PROCESSOR:

[tolstoi]

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r u planning for the next upgrade..here's a hint...

AMD Fans:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/06/15/amd_roadmap/

INTEL Fans:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/08...el_smithfield/

APPLE Fans:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/07/26/ibm_ppc970mp/

[archille]

amd has the edge on that technology for the next year.

[tolstoi]

*AMD is setting the bar for future processor technology, but this time
Intel is not going to be caught with their pants down. With the introduction
of 64-bit mainstream processors, Intel made two mistakes. First, they
underestimated the demand. And second, they weren't ready with a competing product anywhere near the time of release. It seems that they take AMD and its promises more seriously now, as they have proposed two dual-core Pentium processors to compete with AMD's first dual-core processors in the middle of 2005. The two processors, codenamed [size=18px]Paxville and Dempsey[/size], will simply be two Pentium 4 cores printed on one die, and neither will offer any
significant architectural improvement in the core. Paxville, which will be
released first, will be architecturally equivalent to a dual-Xeon setup,
which means it will have a relatively slow shared bus and a relatively
enormous cache. Given the size and thermal dissipation characteristics of
the Prescott, this dual-core behemoth will probably have reduced core and
bus clock rates, and will have little to boast about. On the other hand,
Dempsey brings an important feature to the table. Dempsey, which will be
released after Paxville, will sport a complex bus arbitration unit. This
will reduce the load on the bus and therefore allow Intel to scale the bus
clock frequency very high, which will still not solve the shared bus
problem, but will at least be an impressively efficient workaround. The
disadvantage to this method is that it will slightly increase the bus
latency, and that bus is used for all processor I/O and memory transactions so there are millions of transactions per second, and even a small latency can build up under those circumstances. Intel's biggest problem is that theyre sticking with the Pentium 4 core. They have learned that AMD is a force to be reckoned with, and have prepared a response to AMD's initial dual-core offering, but with the limitations imposed by the existing P4 architecture, they will likely lag behind AMD performance.*

http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/20...0817026514.htm

[tolstoi]

double post

[tolstoi]

Extreme Edition Chips.
Intel Confirms Dual-Core Market Push in Q2 2005


Intel Corp. Monday said it had completed initial production runs of dual-core processors and reiterated its plans to bring dual-core microprocessors for desktop markets in the second quarter. The company said that in addition to mainstream desktop dual-core chips it would bring dual-core Intel Pentium 4 Extreme Edition processor for PC computing and entertainment enthusiasts.

Intel Officially Sets Dual-Core Deadline

“Intel plans to deliver two separate dual-core products and dual-core-enabled chipsets for its Pentium processor-class families in the second quarter, including the Pentium processor Extreme Edition. The Intel Pentium processor Extreme Edition will include Hyper-Threading Technology, providing the ability to process four software “threads” simultaneously,” the company said in its statement.

Intel’s mainstream dual-core chips for desktops originally code-named Smithfield are projected to be branded as Intel Pentium 4 processors 800-series, some sources suggest. Initial Intel Pentium 800-series central processing units are likely to use 800MHz Quad Pumped Bus, integrate 2MB (1MB per core) L2 cache and utilize LGA775 form-factor. The dual-core desktop processor internally called Smithfield will be made using 90nm process technology, each processing engine will use the same architecture with the current Pentium 4 “Prescott” chip, however, the new central processing unit will feature “arbitration logic that will balance bus transactions between the two CPUs”. Smithfield’s die size is about 215 square millimeters.

Intel is expected to disable the Hyper-Threading technology on its mainstream dual-core desktop chips, leaving the capability to process up to four threads simultaneously for its Pentium 4 Extreme Edition chips that will feature two cores. All desktop dual-core chips will sport EM64T, Virtualization, XD bit as well as Enhanced Intel SpeedStep technologies.

Intel's dual-core desktop products are projected to have TDP of around 130W, while currently available infrastructure is designed to support processors with thermal design power of up to 115W, which will not allow the dual-core Pentium 4 800-series chips to operate with the vast majority of today’s mainboards, according to some makers. While some very advanced mainboards may support the Pentium 4 processors 800-series, such support is unlikely to be official. Furthermore, Intel’s i945- and i955X-series core-logic products are expected to bring certain performance enhancements, such as support for DDR2 667MHz memory.

It is expected that Intel’s dual-core desktop products will be launched along with i945- and i955X-series chipsets.

Desktop Dual-Core Chips May Give Intel Competitive Advantage Over Rival AMD

By bringing its dual-core desktop chips to the market a quarter earlier than expected the chip giant Intel Corp. receives a competitive advantage over the arch-rival Advanced Micro Devices, who is expected to bring out its dual-core desktop products only in the second half of 2005. Some sources reported that Intel’s dual-core products are claimed to be relatively affordable: $241, $316 or $530 – depending on the speed-bin and model – for 820 (2.80GHz), 830 (3.00GHz) or 840 (3.20GHz) chips respectively. Pricing of dual-core Intel Pentium 4 Extreme Edition processors is yet unclear. Typically Intel asks system designers to pay $999 for the top-of-the-range Extreme Edition chip.

Intel did not officially reveal specifications of its dual-core desktop chips, neither Smithfield, nor the Extreme Edition flavour.

Intel has more than 10 multi-core related projects underway and plans to increase its software and solutions enabling product lines, tools, investment and programs to further spur software design and validation, the company said.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...207174303.html

we'll just see how it will pair with AMD's dual core line-up.....hmmm.

[tolstoi]

Intel’s Dual-Core Chips to be Available in May – Company’s President.
Intel’s Paul Otellini Indicated Dual-Core CPU Availability Next Month

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...407225835.html

[guilliam]

dual! yummy.. but dual price tags too! ehehhe

[muzikfreakah]

BUt just the same as 64bit the dual cores wont be taken advantage of the software unless it was programmed to do so

[tolstoi]

Alienware announces dual-core Pentium EE 840 PCs

http://www.tomshardware.com/hardnews...14_185759.html

Dell announces XPS Gen 5 desktop with dual-core Pentium EE

http://www.tomshardware.com/hardnews...11_181623.html

[tolstoi]

AMD Athlon 64 X2 – AMD Dual-Core Desktop Chip’s Name.


AMD’s dual-core desktop processors, which are expected to be available this Summer, may be named as the AMD Athlon 64 X2, according to a report from Hexus.net web-site, who said the information was obtained from sources close to Advanced Micro Devices.

The initial breed of dual-core desktop processors will include AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+, AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ and AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ with the top model operating at 2.40GHz, higher than the flagship dual-core AMD Opteron processor, which will presumably function at 2.20GHz, and inline with the current AMD Athlon 64 4000+ microprocessor.

The X2 moniker in the AMD Athlon 64 X2 name should tell customers the chip contains two processing engines, however, it is unclear how exactly AMD determines model numbers for its forthcoming chips. The Sunnyvale, California-based chipmaker has always said its model numbers for desktop processors are to show relative performance of its chips compared to AMD Athlon processor with Thunderbird core. Given that dual-core processors may deliver from 0% to 100% performance increase compared to single-core chip at the same speed with the same cache size depending on application, it is unclear how AMD will decide on the model numbers for its desktop products with two processing engines.

AMD’s dual-core desktop processor will have dual-channel DDR memory controller, 1 or 2MB L2 cache (either 512KB or 1MB of cache per core) and will fit into Socket 939 mainboards provided that they were made according to all AMD’s thermal and voltage guidelines and have a BIOS to support dual-core central processing units.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...413023541.html