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    Default Re: China launches first aircraft carrier on maiden sea trial


    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer_and_Sickle View Post
    ^mag dala siguro ang USN ug experimental sa guba bai, hehehehe
    atots. dli na sa USN.. sa US Airforce na.. mananghid sa sila if pwidi ba huwaman sad kadyot.

  2. #982

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    Quote Originally Posted by flanker View Post
    They wont come near... They will just come in range and fire it in salvos.. It would be difficult for these jet fighters ( F18 ) to stop the swarming Iranian small boats .

    Remember Iran has KH55SM and Sunburn missiles technology. Once released it is impossible to stop.

    Kh-55 (missile family) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    SS-N-22 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Check their range you will understand why the USN won't do anything stupid against Iran.

    KH-5 is a slow moving cruise missile and shouln't be any problem for the AEGIS system to track and kill.

    The SS-N-22 has a range of only 100-120km? The USN RIM-162 ESSM should be able to handle it unless the operators are asleep. Aside from that it takes 1-5 of those missiles to sink a 20,000ton warship? Current US carriers are in the 100,000ton class.

    Then again why are you saying that the US Navy is planning to attack Iran?

    How many of those boats do they have 5? 10? The last thing I read was about a dozen
    Iran has been exaggerating their capabilities for a long time now. I still remember their badly Photoshopped picture about missile launches

    I have to agree with your statement "There is a big difference between a cruise missile and a ballistic missile." Cruise missiles are easier to kill since they are a lot slower.

  3. #983

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    Quote Originally Posted by flanker View Post


    In service bana sa USN? nope development / experimental pa.

    And in fact it is not for sea skimming anti ship cruise missiles but for ballistic missiles.

    There is a big difference between a cruise missile and a ballistic missile.
    ga tuo diay ka nga i public tanan nga defense sa US? kung ila na nang i pa gawas sa future weapons, most probably naa nay na develop nga mas advanced ang US. suma naa bay naka kita before atong chopper nga gigamit pag bira ni bin laden? same with the f-117 stealth. operational na to pag 1983 pero gi acknowledge og gi reveal sa world pag 1988 na. basin og ma kurat nalang ta nga naay murag ufo nga ipa gawas ang us if naay major conflict nga lain.

  4. #984

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    Quote Originally Posted by noel_llapa View Post
    muunlud ra ni sir after 1 year kay made in China man. hehe.
    Hahaha peke gihapon ang mga materials. Dili durable, walay quality gihapon haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy99 View Post
    KH-5 is a slow moving cruise missile and shouln't be any problem for the AEGIS system to track and kill.

    The SS-N-22 has a range of only 100-120km? Aside from that it takes 1-5 missiles to sink a 20,000ton warship? Current US carriers are in the 100,000ton class.
    Then again why are you saying that the US Navy is planning to attack Iran?

    How many of those boats do they have 5? 10? The last thing I read was about a dozen
    Iran has been exaggerating their capabilities for a long time now. I still remember their badly Photoshopped picture about missile launches

    I have to agree with your statement "There is a big difference between a cruise missile and a ballistic missile." Cruise missiles are easier to kill since they are a lot slower.

    I dont think Aeges was designed for that. Maybe Phalanx systems naa guru chance.

    KH 55 is subsonic - Remember these missiles will be fired in salvos.
    Sun Burn is Mach 3

    Dont forget they are sea skimming. very hard to detect. if ma detect man gani gamay nlng kaau kag time to react.





    Quote Originally Posted by erwin_rommel View Post
    ga tuo diay ka nga i public tanan nga defense sa US? kung ila na nang i pa gawas sa future weapons, most probably naa nay na develop nga mas advanced ang US. suma naa bay naka kita before atong chopper nga gigamit pag bira ni bin laden? same with the f-117 stealth. operational na to pag 1983 pero gi acknowledge og gi reveal sa world pag 1988 na. basin og ma kurat nalang ta nga naay murag ufo nga ipa gawas ang us if naay major conflict nga lain.
    Possible pud. Mag base lang ta kung unsay naa karon in service para realistic ba.
    Last edited by flanker; 08-17-2011 at 08:59 PM.

  6. #986

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    Quote Originally Posted by flanker View Post
    I dont think Aeges was designed for that. Maybe Phalanx systems naa guru chance.

    KH 55 is subsonic - Remember these missiles will be fired in salvos.
    Sun Burn is Mach 3

    Dont forget they are sea skimming. very hard to detect. if ma detect man gani gamay nlng kaau kag time to react.







    Possible pud. Mag base lang ta kung unsay naa karon in service para realistic ba.
    mao pod pero kanang sunburn missles kay wala pa gyud na gamit og actual nga gubat. basig epic fail na inig actual nga gubat specially if its from china

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    Default Re: China launches first aircraft carrier on maiden sea trial

    Quote Originally Posted by salbahis View Post
    which one the MPAC?, junked? duh!!!, MPAC is made here locally!!, the design is similarly based to CB90

    the Iranians have Missile boat designed to attacked large vessel, all countries are going for a small vessel

    its more of a doctrine!!!...

    one there was a naval battle simulation between philippines and malaysian navy... the malaysian navy was scratching their head why a small fleet decimated their huge fleet!!

    its not how big the ship is its the weapon that counts kay dili man binangaay ang duwa!!



    Irannian Missile Boat, 3 of this can sinked a carrier.... mao pud ni katong nag harass sa US Navy before...


    And our very own Multi-Purpose Assault Craft (MPAC) proudly filipino made (PropMech)

    Philippine Navy Multi-Purpose Attack Craft (MPAC) - YouTube


    does anyone think this days? or just too much facebook!!!

    cute vessels are destined to be sunk by fast jet fighters from miles and miles away.... your pretty cute little missile wont reach the big mother ship let along the little tinky winky boats...

  8. #988

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    Quote Originally Posted by leonell View Post
    Ok, since China really wants to use it's aircraft carrier, why not challenge USS John Stennis? The US Aircraft Carrier that will be dispatched to show their commitment to defend PHL from any aggressor. I'm sure they're just all hype. What can a "refurbished" Soviet ere aircraft carrier do against a modern US Aircraft carrier?
    bai g bang-an kas soviet technology bai? gato-o guro ka anang imong US .. sorry to tell u ur US is going down.. i have no side. i just state wat is real

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    Quote Originally Posted by flanker View Post
    I dont think Aeges designed for that. Maybe Phalanx systems naa guru chance.

    KH 55 is subsonic - Remember these missiles will be fired in salvos.
    Sun Burn is Mach 3

    Dont forget they are sea skimming. very hard to detect. if ma detect man gani gamay nlng kaau kag time to react.

    .
    AEGIS was designed for that.

    I understand the Sunburn is Mach 3 but with their short range their carriers(boats) will be detected before they are able to launch.
    RIM-162 is Mach 4 and like I said if the operators are alert there should be no problem.

    What is a salvo? 2 missiles? With the available boats they have it can't be many. Aegis can track and engage more than 100 targets at over 100 nautical mile range. Unless they run out of ammo I don 't think Iran has enough missiles and boats to do much damage.

    Again, why do you think the the US Navy will attack Iran?

  10. #990

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    Quote Originally Posted by erwin_rommel View Post
    mao pod pero kanang sunburn missles kay wala pa gyud na gamit og actual nga gubat. basig epic fail na inig actual nga gubat specially if its from china

    Correct ka wala pay nasampulan sa Sunburn. (Russian missile ni cya bro)

    Ang Aegis..naka sample na..



    passenger plane lang sa Iran.


    Quote Originally Posted by Andy99 View Post
    AEGIS was designed for that.

    I understand the Sunburn is Mach 3 but with their short range their carriers(boats) will be detected before they are able to launch.
    RIM-162 is Mach 4 and like I said if the operators are alert there should be no problem.

    What is a salvo? 2 missiles? With the available boats they have it can't be many. Aegis can track and engage more than 100 targets at over 100 nautical mile range. Unless they run out of ammo I don 't think Iran has enough missiles and boats to do much damage.

    Again, why do you think the the US Navy will attack Iran?
    - Im talking about the sea skimming missile (low flying) which i doubt Aegis was designed for. Phalanx naa pay slim chance.

    - Do you think Iran will fire just two? come on.

    - I'm replying on Visual C's post that If the US will attack Iran. Pls back read.
    Last edited by flanker; 08-17-2011 at 09:30 PM.

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