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    Quote Originally Posted by etienne View Post
    pussssy riot in russia = sentenced to 2 years
    carlos celdran = 2 months xx days..

    wel i dont care about russia because they have their own laws. here in the philippines, we follow philippine law. and as far as i know our country is one of the most failed democracies in asia.
    I agree!

    @carmicaeld: Read what I said. I didn't condone his actions, I consider the law oppressive. Don't you know when that law was written and why? It was written during Spanish colonial times to strike fear of the church into the natives because at that time the church and state were united in their goal of perpetuating colonial rule. And I see JcBoy, one of this forum's hardcore Islamists is now one of your supporters. =)

  2. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by pinoy_09 View Post
    this is what I worry...

    the lay people, priests has their own mistakes...now to those cases who are proven "guilty" does anyone knew what happened next? again I would like to emphasized proven "guilty"


    one thing, can a mistake be justified by another mistake?

  3. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by monroy View Post
    The punishment for the so-called crime is still excessive. This smells like oppressive Iranian religious fascism. A true democracy puts freedom of expression above freedom from being offended. This is another reason I think our democracy is just a fake disguise to hide the backwards feudal theocracy that continues to control our country. The church's lackeys don't help the situation at all with these weak defenses.

    Secularism is needed to fight against the growing malice of religious fundamentalism. The argument used by the fanatics is a slippery slope. If he should be punished for offending religious feelings whats to stop someone from closing down churches because their sermons offends non-believers feelings? You can't have your freedom while taking away someone elses. sine qua non

    i would like to respect your view bai...

    on this case I don't see any malice...that is just for me...

    and I believe the Pope is right...


  4. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by dmcebu01 View Post
    Hypocrites will go to HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!! Freedommmmmmmmmmmmmm where are you? I thought the Spanish Friars are gone?

    mga Padre............walia pamo matagbaw sa mga kolekta? Tirahan ninyo ang Freedom of Speech?
    So if di pa to pari iyang gibuhatan atu, kinahanglan jud to silutan sah?

    Daghan mu react labi na kay nag involve ug religion.
    Last edited by SioDenz; 01-30-2013 at 08:56 AM.

  5. #85
    Quote Originally Posted by monroy View Post
    I agree!

    @carmicaeld: Read what I said. I didn't condone his actions, I consider the law oppressive. Don't you know when that law was written and why? It was written during Spanish colonial times to strike fear of the church into the natives because at that time the church and state were united in their goal of perpetuating colonial rule. And I see JcBoy, one of this forum's hardcore Islamists is now one of your supporters. =)
    kindly refrain misquoting someones post.

    Quote Originally Posted by etienne View Post
    pussssy riot in russia = sentenced to 2 years
    carlos celdran = 2 months xx days..

    wel i dont care about russia because they have their own laws. here in the philippines, we follow philippine law. and as far as i know our country is one of the most vibrant democracies in asia.

  6. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    So if di pa to pari iyang gibuhatan atu, kinahanglan jud to silutan sah?

    Daghan mu react labi na kay nag involve ug religion.
    Weather2x ra man gud na boss... Nahitabo lang nga in a catholic religious gathering nahitabo. Celdran can take it to higher court and appeal his case if he really think he is innocent... Kana kung lawom2x pa cya ug bursa...
    Last edited by psyche54; 01-30-2013 at 09:08 AM.

  7. #87
    Quote Originally Posted by psyche54 View Post
    Weather2x ra man gud na boss... Nahitabo lang nga in a catholic religious gathering nahitabo. Celdran can take it to higher court and appeal his case if he really think he is innocent... Kana kung lawom2x pa cya ug bursa...
    well i've read nga gidawat ra daw niya, kay napasar man ang RH Bill, worth kaayo iya gibuhat daw...i don't want to think he's acting like a "hero" kay tungod sa iyang gibuhat the bill passed...

  8. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Daghan mu react labi na kay nag involve ug religion.
    daghan.....labi pag:

    - mahilom ang kaso
    - makabalita nalang ta'g nag-binayranay na
    - makakita ta sa mga accused nga mura rag walay nahitabo (which is understandable until proven guilty)
    - mo-involve nag kwarta nya daghang gutom
    - minilyon ang value sa sakyanan
    - mo-apil2x ang simbahan/kulto/groupo sa state affairs
    - mo-apil2x ang simbahan/kulto/groupo nga mo-involve sa family manangement...in which they don't have ANY experience...well, there are a few nga naa'y tinagu-an...
    - wa lay lingaw
    - keyboard warriors...which most of us are...c'mon...admit it most of us are...

    .

  9. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by carmicaeld View Post
    what's stopping non-believers from suing churches if priests / religious leaders force themselves into said non-believers' houses bringing placards saying "burn in hell"? by all means, sue them and let the slugfest begin. as long as religious practices are practiced inside the property of a religion's church, i have no qualms about it. if they start going inside my house without my permission and expressing their religious freedom there, then i am well within my rights (and anyone else should also be within theirs) to force them outside and seek for legal relief.
    i agree with this

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    paksit, paksit!

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