ALL ABOUT APPLE'S IPHONE

[RyoZen]

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Today the NTT DoCoMo network — as well as all the W-CDMA networks in the world — use the standard version of UMTS, allowing potential global roaming.

from http://www.answers.com/topic/umts

Also known as UMTS (Universal Mobile Telecommunications System), WCDMA (Wideband CDMA) is the 3G standard chosen by most GSM/GPRS wireless network operators wanting to evolve their systems to 3G network technology. WCDMA offers enhanced voice and data capacity and peak data rates faster than most dial-up services and average rates consistently greater than GSM/GPRS (Global System for Mobile communications/General Packet Radio Service) and EDGE (Enhanced Data for GSM Evolution). As of February 2006, more than 51 million subscribers were using WCDMA for their mobile voice and data needs.

from http://www.3gtoday.com/wps/portal/!ut/p/kcxml/04_Sj9SPykssy0xPLMnMz0vM0Y_QjzKLN463dAHJmMUbxBub6k eiijjCBbz1fT3yc1P1A_QLckMjyh0VFQHj6obn/delta/base64xml/L3dJdyEvUUd3QndNQSEvNElVRS82XzNfOUU!?page=home

japan uses UMTS

playing safe doesn't always lead to success dude. they could have adapted 3g or hsdpa into their iphones and later adapt the "standards" into their 2nd gen iphones if they like. speaking of universal standards, i don't think such thing will happen. what can possibly happen is interoperability of these existing standards.

take note also that the standard widely accepted by the user will not be the factor, but the standard widely being used by operating networks around the world will be the common denominator. and apparently it's UMTS...

[Zirv]

Japan uses UMTS Smiley

playing safe doesn't always lead to success dude. they could have adapted 3g or hsdpa into their iphones and later adapt the "standards" into their 2nd gen iphones if they like. speaking of universal standards, i don't think such thing will happen. what can possibly happen is interoperability of these existing standards.

Check out NTT DOCOMO's webpage......

They use FOMA.... (its their own 3G not entirely UMTS but it uses some protocols of UMTS)

and if you browse their phone there is only one model with GSM capability which is RECOMEMDED for BUSINESS TRAVELLERS going to other countries with GSM.....

ALL other NTT Docomo phone MODELS are based on FOMA.....


To prove this point.... BRING YOUR GSM/3G phone in the philippines and go to JAPAN......


PLease GOOGLE some more....

so that you may know......

Which 3G STANDARD will PREVAIL..... ITS still UNCERTAIN.....

UMTS is the MOST ADOPTED..... BUT that doesn't mean THERE are no OTHER 3G system out there.....


SO until the DUST SETTLES..... its good to BE on the SAFE SIDE.....

If you have FORESIGHT...... you will know what the ULTIMATE Highspeed mobile network will be....

I know already which on will WIN...... its up to you to find out and understand WHICH STANDARD will come out on TOP.....

[RyoZen]

i have a good foresight indeed.. i predicted that the pentium series will not reach 4ghz (without overclocking) and that multi-core processors will take over the processor competition... i also foresighted that the iphone won't be a big hit until it gets to 2nd or 3rd generation...

[markyap]

Japan has UMTS?Huh?? dream on.... TRY to BRING your GSM/UMTS PHONE to JAPAN...... lets SEE IF IT HAS a SIGNAL.....

i dont have to dream...ive been there...
SoftBank Mobile currently operates both PDC (Japanese 2G) and W-CDMA (UMTS 3G) networks...NO ONE SAID NTT DOCOMO!!! you have such small mind to think there is only one mobile network in japan...tsk tsk.
DO YOUR HOMEWORK PROPERLY!!!
im in the IT industry...mobile devices, computers, etc....i deal with these things everyday. dont act like you know more than i do coz clearly you dont!
i deal with JAPANESE UMTS/GSM phones almost everyday...for unlocking, language change, setup, etc.
yes making japanese used cellphones usauble in out local networks. try to understand what that means...

So now you are saying UMTS is widely accepted..... BUT THE FACT remains THERE ARE LOTS of 3G Standards..... There is no SINGLE UNIVERSAL 3G STANDARD

so STOP saying UMTS is the STandard.....

Ive always been saying UMTS is the most widely accepted 3G standard!! NOT JUST NOW...
yes its a standard! and you would be a fool to think there will ever be a single universal 3g standard.
CDMA networks will not just abandon their system to adapt other less cost effective and harder upgrade path since they already invested billions on CDMA system. same goes for GSM/GPRS systems.

CDMA and GSM are both 2G standards...they both exsist today! there is not one single universal 2G standard...why did APPLE adapt one even though thats the case if your "excuse" was so valid?!
ARE YOU TELLING APPLE TO WAIT TILL THERE IS ONLY A SINGLE UNIVERSAL 2G STANDARD to adapt? tsk tsk.

"UMTS is the STandard"
"UMTS is the STandard"
"UMTS is the STandard"

some countries are putting off investing in 3G

Not networks built on GSM/GPRS/EDGE systems already...which is a whole lot more!

They will STICK to GSM up until the 3G dust Settles.....

Which 3G STANDARD will PREVAIL..... ITS still UNCERTAIN.....

but GSM is not a standard according to your stupid definition...so why did they adapt on GSM?
why? has there been a prevailant 2G standard and death to the others?

UMTS is the MOST ADOPTED.

and thats what ive been saying all along...why can't you accept that in the 1st place...tsk tsk.

[RyoZen]

For short sir mark, iPhone doesn't live up to the standards of today's gadget lovers for now...

[in_utero]

kinopya raman nis LG...inig gawas anis 2008 aw donganan nis SE og sa NOKIA paras ilang competinsya pud.. human.. yabong sabaw..

[markyap]

For short sir mark, iPhone doesn't live up to the standards of today's gadget lovers for now...

check...

[Zirv]

i dont have to dream...ive been there...
SoftBank Mobile currently operates both PDC (Japanese 2G) and W-CDMA (UMTS 3G) networks...NO ONE SAID NTT DOCOMO!!! you have such small mind to think there is only one mobile network in japan...tsk tsk.
DO YOUR HOMEWORK PROPERLY!!!
im in the IT industry...mobile devices, computers, etc....i deal with these things everyday. dont act like you know more than i do coz clearly you dont!
i deal with JAPANESE UMTS/GSM phones almost everyday...for unlocking, language change, setup, etc.
yes making japanese used cellphones usauble in out local networks. try to understand what that means...

NTT Docomo is the LEADER in WIRELESS..... and NTT Docomo have their own 3G and 4G Network.....

so don't give that softbank mobile..... which is just a NEW PLAYER.....

please check what percentage of the MARKET does NTT Docomo have....

Ive always been saying UMTS is the most widely accepted 3G standard!! NOT JUST NOW...
yes its a standard! and you would be a fool to think there will ever be a single universal 3g standard.
CDMA networks will not just abandon their system to adapt other less cost effective and harder upgrade path since they already invested billions on CDMA system. same goes for GSM/GPRS systems.

CDMA and GSM are both 2G standards...they both exsist today! there is not one single universal 2G standard...why did APPLE adapt one even though thats the case if your "excuse" was so valid?!
ARE YOU TELLING APPLE TO WAIT TILL THERE IS ONLY A SINGLE UNIVERSAL 2G STANDARD to adapt? tsk tsk.

"UMTS is the STandard"
"UMTS is the STandard"
"UMTS is the STandard"

UMTS is just 1 of the 3G system....

Why did APPLE choose GSM clearly GSM is moving in the USA......... GSM covers ASIA and EUROPE... USA was the last to adopt GSM and they are seeing the benefits....

It is VERY CLEAR to APPLE GSM is the WAY to GO....

(Again same analogy in APPLE using INTEL PROCESSORS..... its CLEAR..... VERY CLEAR.....)

BUT for 3G............ APPLE has not SEEN anything CLEAR....

So BETTER wait for the DUST to SETTLE....

and thats what ive been saying all along...why can't you accept that in the 1st place...tsk tsk.

"UMTS is the STandard"
"UMTS is the STandard"
"UMTS is the STandard"

Which is which?

UMTS is not the standard for 3G...... its one of MANY 3G out there.....

ARE YOU TELLING APPLE TO WAIT TILL THERE IS ONLY A SINGLE UNIVERSAL 2G STANDARD to adapt? tsk tsk.

Apple has adopted GSM.....

and reason is because ITS CLEAR..... unlike 3G which is NOT CLEAR....

[markyap]

so don't give that softbank mobile..... which is just a NEW PLAYER.....

blah blah blah...we are talking bout UMTS being available in JAPAN...
sayop gyapon ka maski unsaon...and I am right! you are wrong!
i can use my 3G UMTS phone here in the philippines and in japan.
so get use to it...you are wrong...i am right.

anyways, you can keep on dreaming and waiting for iphone all you want.
on the other hand, i dont have to dream, i prefer to be in the now...my reality...im enjoying 3G service right now. hahaha!

goodluck...keep praying to Jobs/Apple...

[Zirv]

blah blah blah...we arent talking bout UMTS being available in JAPAN...
sayop gyapon ka maski unsaon...and I am right! you are wrong!
i can use my 3G UMTS phone here in the philippines and in japan.
so get use to it...you are wrong...i am right.

TRY it..... aside from the spotty coverage.....

clearly You know who has the best mobile NEtwork in Japan.........

so please don't give me a new player who clearly isn't established..... and possibly wouldn't last very long in the face of competition....

And I have to thank you again for showing that even in JAPAN the 3G system really is a MESS with different mobile phone networks.....

So APPLE is PRudent.... LET the DUST SETTLE.....