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    To make the Philippines a better place is easy,you just have to mold the mind of the youth.The government of the Philippines should focus more on education and discipline at school.They should invest in the education of the youth.

    He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future.
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    time will heal, marcos still the best president so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve's Apple Project View Post
    OT naman ni hehe: sorry bai but i stand on what i believe in. I am an OFW myself & clearly i understand how it is (being one).i agree on some of your points but not all. Like i said if ONLY we have pride..example bai naa pa kay nakit-an nga DH nga Korean/japanese/singaporean nga nagwork outside sa ila country? wa diba? tungod na sa government bai. of course ganahan ang Gov't nato nga manglarga ang mga Pinoys as OFW kay tungod sa funds nga mapadala nila sa pinas. Kung ni focus lang unta ang Govt sa pagdevelop sa local economy bai we could have became richer than singapore & paid our debts. take a look at China, kinahanglan diay sila magpadala og tao sa gawas sa china para molambo ila country? they are developed their local economy para makaattract sa mga taga gawas nga mosulod sa china. I am thinking of the problem as a whole bai, dili partial mao naka ingon ko nga mas maayo nga wa na untay OFW. naa man jud potential ang pinas, think hard bai kinsa man ang mga Datu sa pinas, pure pinoy ba? they saw the potential why can't we? hehehe
    well let me point some facts. for you..

    naa pa kay nakit-an nga DH nga Korean/japanese/singaporean nga nagwork outside sa ila country? wa diba?
    I've seen some but not mostly. why? that's because their country can compensate them fairly. ang ilang sweldo sa ilang country kai enough. coz wala sila ka suffer ug parihas sa pilinas sauna. ang naka lahi lang sa ilaha ug sa ato-a.... wala nag hinilas ilang leader compare ni marcos ug ni emilda sauna nga pwerting bongga kaau murag silay tag-iya sa pilipinas. mao nang ang mga tao dili maka ako ug kagutom while naka kita sila sa ilang presidente nga pwerteng bunggaha....

    of course ganahan ang Gov't nato nga manglarga ang mga Pinoys as OFW kay tungod sa funds nga mapadala nila sa pinas. Kung ni focus lang unta ang Govt sa pagdevelop sa local economy bai we could have became richer than singapore & paid our debts.
    Philippine economy doesn't prosper overnight. atong gobyerno nag buhat pud nag kaayohan sa atung nasud... ang problema lang... BA-UN lang jud kaau tas utang... ug daghan pa kaayo ta dapat buhaton sa atong nasud ug dili ta maka bayad ug 100% kwarta sa atong national income para ma bayaran lang toh... kuwang ra kaau.... sa interest palang natu da-an. so bisag ang Pope pas vatican pa lingkoron or bisag kinsa diha... dili jud maka sulbad sa atong crisis just within 10 yrs. coz it progresses slowly.

    try google 7.3% economic growth of a country. and you will know how successful it is. compare to US 2.3% and European countries 4. something. nga wala ra kaau paki sa ilang economic progress kai lagi.. DATU NA SILA DA-AN.

    take a look at China, kinahanglan diay sila magpadala og tao sa gawas sa china para molambo ila country? they are developed their local economy para
    imo eh compare ang china sa pilipinas? nga wala mana silay utang nga kaparehas sa atu-ang nasud... ug kibaw baka nga ang population sa beijing area lang sa china is equivalent nas whole population sa pilipinas? so sa man power labor nalang da-an pildi nata..

    hinay lang nang china ug progress sauna kai they are self renowned Republican like sa north korea. ug dili sila ganahan lain product mo sulod sa ilang nasud kai kung mahitabu na sauna.... walay mo palit sa ilang own products... mag sige nalang ug pangayo ang ilang tao ug imported goods. nya ang madatu laing nasud.

    ingon ana ang pamalakad sa gobyerno sa japan... katung nag sugod panang Samsung,Panasonic, Honda, Mitsubishi , Suzuki and etc. pag start ana nila ge protektahan na sila sa ilang government. by means nga walay lain products paliton ang mga citizens kundi ang ilaha lang products. and when they grew matured. they took it to the next level which is international exports. tan-awa unsa ka datu sila ron? but gamai ra kaau ang value sa ilang money eh compare sa ato-a... coz they are exporter types of country. kung mahalon nila ilang currency walay mo palit sa ilang baligya.....

    pero for so many years. ang china naka bantay sila nga needed jud nila ang other products and other technologies. mao ni shift na sila ron ug Deplomatic pero wala nila ge wala ang pagka Rebublic nila... so dual nana sila ron..

    mo dawat nana silag lain goods pero ang Government mag bo-ut unsa dawaton.... Mao nanang... investments is rising in china... because of cheap labors. technology nga ilang madawat ilang eh MASS PRODUCTION ug butangan nilag ilahang brand.

    mao nang halos tanang product naa na sila... so kinsa dili mo lambo ang economy ana? bisan gani facebook dili kasulod sa ilang nasud... kai naa silay ilahang social network para lang dili kaau ma disseminate ang ilang own currency..

    ug mao nai wala ge buhat sa pilinas sauna pang panahon....

    I am thinking of the problem as a whole bai, dili partial mao naka ingon ko nga mas maayo nga wa na untay OFW. naa man jud potential ang pinas, think hard bai kinsa man ang mga Datu sa pinas, pure pinoy ba? they saw the potential why can't we? hehehe
    so you're saying I'm not thinking as a whole? I was just showing you partial ideas that you shared and I just detailed it for you. kung explainan takas tanan.... taas kaau kag basahon... mao nag muna muna rakug summarize sa akong pang post. no need to say we all want nga wala nai OFW's coz it's an obvious fact nga sige nalang balik2x sa other threads and doesn't need to say it again.

    about sa mga foriegners kibaw baka nga wala pana sila ma abot sa pilipinas datu najud na sila? mai man gani diri na sila sa pilipinas ni invest para maka trabaho ang mga dili datu diri sa atong nasud... dapat pa gani ta magpasalamat anang mga DATU-A kai tungod nila ni lambo gamai atong economiya....

    dili lang jud unta angay ma wad-an ug pag-asa... kung gusto ta ma lambu mag antos pata ug pila ka tu-ig para ana.... ug kamung mga OFW's ang usa sa makadala ug palambo.... kai kita nga country...

    export workers man atong style ug palambo sa economy....


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    I disagree, OFW's are destroying our economy. You also have to wonder why they are leaving the country? Is it out of heroism, because they want to help our country or is it out of pure opportunism so they can help their family. The two shouldn't be confused. To be a hero you have to have the intention to help the country, not just your family. These people are leaving on purely self-interested economic grounds. That by itself is not a bad thing, and I'm not saying the OFW's are crooks or traitors for doing so. But calling them heroes is hyperbole and OA by our politicians and other naive sentimentalists who want to stir up emotions where none should exist.

    OFW's leaving the country is a purely BUSINESS and ECONOMIC decision, it is not a heroic one. Get your head out of your damned ass. The real heroes are the entrepreneurs, the businessmen the moguls who manage to generate jobs and employment here despite the barriers thrown at their way by our totally incompetent and stupid government officials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RMK711 View Post
    I disagree, OFW's are destroying our economy. You also have to wonder why they are leaving the country? Is it out of heroism, because they want to help our country or is it out of pure opportunism so they can help their family. The two shouldn't be confused. To be a hero you have to have the intention to help the country, not just your family. These people are leaving on purely self-interested economic grounds. That by itself is not a bad thing, and I'm not saying the OFW's are crooks or traitors for doing so. But calling them heroes is hyperbole and OA by our politicians and other naive sentimentalists who want to stir up emotions where none should exist.

    OFW's leaving the country is a purely BUSINESS and ECONOMIC decision, it is not a heroic one. Get your head out of your damned ass. The real heroes are the entrepreneurs, the businessmen the moguls who manage to generate jobs and employment here despite the barriers thrown at their way by our totally incompetent and stupid government officials.
    yes, that's true about self interests. even so they're still helping our country because of what they did. it's the outcome of what you do that defines you.

    It's just a bit different way. coz reality bites. even though we work our arses off in this country alone for 50 yrs.

    we can't change our economy with just this country alone. most investors that are coming here are mostly just BPO industries. which doesn't suit to others who doesn't speak fluent english, and doesn't have computer skills.

    Even lapulapu had his personal interest in protecting his tribe... and yet he was renowned as a hero when he killed magellan. the effect of his revolution on a bigger picture was counted.

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    basin kulang lang kog pagsabot cguro or kinahanglan pajud ko magtoon og ecomonics..ahaha Like i said i agree on SOME of your ideas. Ikaw ra sad nag-ingon sa imo gipost sa babaw nilambo ang china og japan because ila gipakusog ila local economy. gi paubos nila ang ila kwarta for a good reason bai, it doesn't only help compete with the imported goods bai pati ang smuggled goods mamatay ana. Mao na nilambo ila country (not by sending overseas workers). Singapore/korea/China (or maybe even japan)..puros ra na sila nagtan-aw ra sa ato & suya sauna..karon lab-wan nata, that is because of discipline, Good Governance & a rooted sense of pride sa ila country. (lisod i explain diri ang sense of Pride bai, taas kaayo hehehe).

    please research more kinsa ang ma datu sa pinas karon (ex. tan-aw Forbes list..& maybe research why nadatu sila). dili na sila datu daan bai..with respect nila bai, do you think nga sila Henry Sy, lucio tan, Tony Tan Caktiong..etc datu na sila daan? naa guro capital but not datu daan...even Gokongwei was not DATU daan bai, they just worked hard then learned the ropes..(ang uban kay 2nd generation na, mao cguro niingon ka nga datu na daan).

    7.3 ang economic growth? dapat lang oi.. pila kaha ang nilarga ka OFW ana nga time bai? & pila kaha call center ang nag open ana kay mahal na kaayo ang operational cost sa US?hehe common sense man na bai..nisaka ta coz wa ta nagsalig sa ato Local economy..

    & again i agree with you nga dili dali ang pagpausab sa country. China took around 60 years to get where they are today (apil nalng sad ni research..hehehe)..we all need to do our share. & it's not an easy road. hehe

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    Default Re: Lee Kuan Yew's Reply to Mr. Marcos' Statement

    mao na. maau unta ma basahan ni sa uban na wala pa naka amgo. syaro wala pa jud na tagam ang manga pinoy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RMK711 View Post
    I disagree, OFW's are destroying our economy. You also have to wonder why they are leaving the country? Is it out of heroism, because they want to help our country or is it out of pure opportunism so they can help their family. The two shouldn't be confused. To be a hero you have to have the intention to help the country, not just your family. These people are leaving on purely self-interested economic grounds. That by itself is not a bad thing, and I'm not saying the OFW's are crooks or traitors for doing so. But calling them heroes is hyperbole and OA by our politicians and other naive sentimentalists who want to stir up emotions where none should exist.

    OFW's leaving the country is a purely BUSINESS and ECONOMIC decision, it is not a heroic one. Get your head out of your damned ass. The real heroes are the entrepreneurs, the businessmen the moguls who manage to generate jobs and employment here despite the barriers thrown at their way by our totally incompetent and stupid government officials.
    I believe that over-reliance on OFW's is the main problem. The government for a long time now has treated emigrants as a national resource. What happens if demand for cheap labor suddenly dries up? What will happen to our GDP? We have put all our eggs in one basket with little consideration for the future or for long-term economic development.

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    bai RMK711: sakto ka bai nga OFW's should not be called heroes..but i disagree that we (OFWs) are destroying the economy. the ones destroying the economy are the corrupt Gov't officials & greedy businessmen..why? purely because of greed. nangutana sad ko sauna ana sa amo company CEO bai..Why di sya ganahan mo invest sa pinas..ang tubag bai kay kasagaran mga Businessmen sa pinas di ganahan mo grow..dali ra kaayo ma contento, plus pa ang corruption sa govt. & i have some friends who own companies sa cebu & all i can say that what our CEO said was somehow true..magcge nalng Golf (larga sa gawas para golf)ako kaila kay relax na kaayo but ang iya mga employees ang uban underpaid pa..so please, refrain from saying nga ang mga OFWs ang makaguba sa economy, we are even the SHORT term solution...hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve's Apple Project View Post

    please research more kinsa ang ma datu sa pinas karon (ex. tan-aw Forbes list..& maybe research why nadatu sila). dili na sila datu daan bai..with respect nila bai, do you think nga sila Henry Sy, lucio tan, Tony Tan Caktiong..etc datu na sila daan? naa guro capital but not datu daan...even Gokongwei was not DATU daan bai, they just worked hard then learned the ropes..(ang uban kay 2nd generation na, mao cguro niingon ka nga datu na daan).
    if you really trace their incomes and transactions. you will see there, they were attracting investors to invest in their companies. yes they own the company name. but they can't proliferate just by themselves. and still it all boils down to the already rich investors who trusted those companies they've handled.

    and they were also lucky they were the pioneers of those transactions. and that was before marcos had martial law. where they had the small capital and a great business initiative than others.

    but if they started today in our country's current situation where there's lots of alternative investment options. with lots of competitions, chances are small for them to progress like that.

    Also include manny pacquiao for those lucky ones...

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