Biblical truth be told

[Pein]

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Ang condition sa salvation wala naka-focus sa action o state sa tawo. Naa naka-sentro sa nahuman nga trabaho ni Cristo sa cross. Ang word nga gigamit sa Greigo - TETELESTAI meaning paid in full. Bayad na TANAN. Kung mangutana ta, pila sa TANAN ang wala naapil og bayad. Tubag wala na kay bayad na man tanan. Busa ang object sa atong faith mao ang nahuman nga buhat ni Christ og dili tungod sa ato. Busa dili na gyud mawala.

so dili jud mawala? so kintahay save nako, what if bro nakabuhat kog dautan nga sala like blasphemy against God, luwas pa gihapon ko?

[RolandBarroJr]

so dili jud mawala? so kintahay save nako, what if bro nakabuhat kog dautan nga sala like blasphemy against God, luwas pa gihapon ko?

Pien, sa ako reply naa ang tubag. Dungag, lang pud - dili sala ang hinungdan nganong ang tawo muadto sa impyerno kay kung sala lang wala malangit.

Tulog sa ko Pien, padal-i lang ko og private message para ani para matagaan dayon nako og tubag kay usahay mawala sa kadaghan og samokan. SALAMAT. Sa Diyos ang Himaya.

[Pein]

Pien, sa ako reply naa ang tubag. Dungag, lang pud - dili sala ang hinungdan nganong ang tawo muadto sa impyerno kay kung sala lang wala malangit.

Tulog sa ko Pien, padal-i lang ko og private message para ani para matagaan dayon nako og tubag kay usahay mawala sa kadaghan og samokan. SALAMAT. Sa Diyos ang Himaya.

kung dili mawala ang salvation bro, unsaon mani nimo pag reconcile ani nga verse bro?

Heb 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,

Heb 6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

Heb 6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

[regnauld]

This is a matter of FAITH and not a matter of FACT so in essence FAITH is just FAITH and nothing else!

[Ramini]

faith backed up by a book.

[Existanz]

Q.2. Is there a Biblical justification that explicitly give us the moral right, in the case of a Christian- to kill a human being in defense of one's life?

Answer:
- In response to this question, I would like to present first the Three Facets of Truth found in the Bible and is still applicable in this present day and age. The first one is THE LAWS OF DIVINE ESTABLISHMENT WITH ITS FOUR DIVINE INSTITUTION namely FREEDOM, MARRIAGE,FAMILY AND NATIONALISM. Second THE GOSPEL (Christ Death - Finished Work on the Cross, BURIAL, RESURRECTION, ASCENSION, AND SESSION - Christ seated at the Right Hand of the Father). Thirdly, THE ROYAL FAMILY HONOR CODE (some call it the Divine Culture).
Now, I would like to focus only on the First Facet of Truth and deal in its two subcategory namely Freedom and Nationalism. First, any person (Believer or Unbeliever alike) born physically alive was given by God his own inalienable right and was intended (desired) by God to exercise that freedom as not to overlap other person's freedom. Responsible freedom then is when a person exercises his freedom inline with the previous sentence. Irresponsible freedom however is the negative of this. Live and Let Live is the Principle behind all of this. That is why taking one's life would be unjustifiable. However, Nationalism would make it clear also that God gave authorities to preserve and maintain that God given freedom to be exercised responsibly. Anyone who will violate the this principle of freedom (i. e. usurpation of life, liberty and/or property) will have to face its consequence and if necessary that violator (who exercises his freedom irresponsibly) be eliminated - killed. Killing is not sin, murder is a sin.

Sir, is there any explicit Bible verse that exactly gives us the right to do so- in extreme cases take the life of a man that threatens our life?

[RolandBarroJr]

Sir, is there any explicit Bible verse that exactly gives us the right to do so- in extreme cases take the life of a man that threatens our life?

My Reply: The greater facets of truth found in the Bible can only be derived by Inductive Reasoning. That is, take a particular subject you would like to study (i. e. kill or killing) then take all the verses in the scriptures from Genesis down to Revelation. Analyze each the verses in light its Historical Context (Isogogically) and Exegetically (understanding it from its original text - Hebrew, Aramaic, or Greek in the New Testament).

The concept of killing in defense to ones own life, liberty and property was the result of Inductive Reasoning which was basically having its background in the days of Nehemiah. You see Nationalism as I have already introduced to you before is ordained by God that a Nation in order for it stand as nation must maintain strong military defenses. Weak Military Defenses means weak nation (The Doctrine of Freedom through Military Victory). Now let's go back to days when Nehemiah was given the authority by the King of Babylon - King Artaxerxes to build back the broken wall of their land, he (Nehemiah) being the leader has odered his group to build the wall and at the same time carry with them swords and spears including women if possible. When attackers of the nearby nations attack them they, stop the work and defend their territory and when they draw back the enemies (killing them if necessary in order for them to draw back) they go back to work. This happend many times until the wall has come to its completion. With this I cannot give you single verse to prove you justifying killing. How about reading the whole Book of Nehemiah. If you not yet satisfied - how about reading the Book of Joshua when they killed (actually slaughtered the whole nation of Jericho) in order for them to pass through the Land of Canaan.

You see book, chapter and verse won't answer this single concept of killing. In the TEN COMMANDMENTS, however, THOU SHALL NOT KILL - was supposed to be translated Thou shalt not commit pre-meditated killing (murder).

Let the Holy Spirit confirm this truth to you. Keep on asking buddy.

[NapoleonBlownapart]

Malic's Question: Is the bible you have now, the inspired word of God?
My Reply: The one that is my position right now are called translation from the copies of copies of the original one. The original one is the inspired Word of God.

so what do you the bible that you have now, the copies of copies of copies? the uninspired word of God

[chad_tukes]

faith backed up by a book.

fiction or non-fiction?

[RolandBarroJr]

so what do you the bible that you have now, the copies of copies of copies? the uninspired word of God

This copies of copies of copies issues will not stop until we don't understand the Doctrine of Inspiration. I'll discuss the Doctrine of Inspiration on Next Post. Please wait.

Also if you want to study it with yourself, I will send to you the full document that I will be discussing. Send me a private message implying that you want the document for your own personal study.