Global Financial Crises: Capitalism is going down

[eax]

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Yeah, its very radical. One question. How do we compensate equitably the people? Like one is working very hard for the good of the self-sustaining community while another is just lazing around doing almost nothing? Or one is so intelligent that he made huge scientific and artistic achievements while another is so dull he can't even do addition using his fingers?

Sakto pud.

Mao na ang thinking sa communism. Equal ang tanan pero each one of us kay naa biya mga different talents and intellects. Take for example sa Cambodia during Pol Pot and North Korea.

[unsay_ngalan_nimo]

nice man unta ang communism... personally i think its the highest from of civilization... now those who understand communism could understand that... but the present generation is not ready for it...

communism has not been tried actually... north korea, cambodia are not communist states... i think... these are socialist states... there is actually a process... it supposed to be socialism then communism.. but with hybrid capitalist socialist welfare states doing better than socialist states... the process is probably not socialism then communism... there is probably a missing link...

[grovestreet]

Yeah, its very radical. One question. How do we compensate equitably the people? Like one is working very hard for the good of the self-sustaining community while another is just lazing around doing almost nothing? Or one is so intelligent that he made huge scientific and artistic achievements while another is so dull he can't even do addition using his fingers?

i apologize if my choice for words is making it a little confusing, but i will try to explain this the best i can (without relying on my codigo hehe). In a resource-based economy, most of the monotonous jobs (food production, infrastructure etc) would be replaced by machines. You can clearly notice it today that technology is heading in that direction. But there's a certain clash between our current system and our technological advancements since people would be losing their jobs once most of the production becomes automated.

To better understand the meaning of a Resource Based Economy consider this: if all the money in the world were destroyed, as long as topsoil, factories, and other resources were left intact, we could build anything we choose to build and fulfill any human need. It is not money that people need; rather, it is free access to the necessities of life. In a Resource Based Economy , money would be irrelevant. All that would be required are the resources and the manufacturing and distribution of the products.

[unsay_ngalan_nimo]

ummm.... ano yun make you own product? parang make your own cellphone or laptop?

[grovestreet]

where in my post did i say anything like that? nevermind. f--k hope.

[unsay_ngalan_nimo]

hahahaha... probably you mean specialization... if you're a great builder you build for the community... if you're a good farmer you farm for the community... ummm is that it? hahaha...

[The_Child]

marxism never purported or presented equality in society. thats a misunderstanding many marxist posers and marxist critics commit.

the formula is not of equality but: from each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

thats not equality, marx never presented equality but rather the secession of the class antagonism. not equality but the secession of class antagonism.

[unsay_ngalan_nimo]

umm.. you're talking about marxist communism... what about christian communism?

[grovestreet]

Yeah, its very radical. One question. How do we compensate equitably the people? Like one is working very hard for the good of the self-sustaining community while another is just lazing around doing almost nothing? Or one is so intelligent that he made huge scientific and artistic achievements while another is so dull he can't even do addition using his fingers?

If we look back history, we see a very clear pattern of machine automation, slowly replacing human labor. From the disappearance of the elevator man, to the near full automation of an automobile production plant, the fact is as technology grows, the need for humans in the work force will continually be diminished. This creates a serious clash, which proves the falseness of the monetary based labor system… for human employment is in direct competition with technological development. Therefore, given the fundamental priority of profit by Industry, people, through time will be continually laid off and replaced by machine.

if you want to save my time explaining things to you, watch zeitgeist addendum.

[unsay_ngalan_nimo]

so how do we achieve communism?
each according to his need and capability... ummm.... didto pa lng naa nay grouping... of courrse naa gyud mas maayo... na gyud mas intelligent... naa gyud mas gwapo ug gwapa... na gud mga banga...

so ang mga gipanganak na way ayo? ang mas bright ug masdahan mabuhat masdagan gyud share.. mura gihapon capitalism... you work more you earn more...

hahahaha...