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    Quote Originally Posted by kobmat View Post
    I was merely trying to make a point of how absurd it is. I do suggest you try and learn to read.
    That's exactly the point. You're making something look as if it's "the last say" absurd, when the fact is we really don't know the score, unless more stringent data collection is done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kobmat View Post
    We may be warming but i doubt the cause of it all is us humans. I don't get why people focus too much on carbon dioxide as the main driver of global warming when the most abundant greenhouse gas in the atmosphere is water vapor which accounts for 94.999 %. We are just contributing a small amount of CO2 compared to the natural sources of it, only about 0.117%.

    Now i ask. What are the chances that our 0.117% contribution to the CO2 in the atmosphere is the cause of the all the warming that we have experienced?
    The reason that water vapor is overlooked in reports is that water vapor is viewed only as a FEEDBACK agent in the atmosphere..Water vapor has a short lifespan in the atmosphere,about 10-30 days compared to CO2 and other greenhouse gases(methane,CFC's-these gases have large global warming potentials) which last for decades or even centuries meaning that these gases will have a cumulative effect in the atmosphere for a long time..you can say that water vapor causes the bulk of the warming but the effect of that warming is amplified or FORCED by the other greenhouse gases(CO2,et al) or known as positive feedback and it will stay that way for a large amount of time thanks to these gases' rather large lifespan..

    of course,there is still a flaw to this explanation..when there is a positive feedback, there must also be a negative feedback which lowers the temperature..scientists are still not clear whether negative feedback is negligible or plays a huge role in the forcing-feedback effect of anthropogenic greenhouse gases..so further research is still in need..

    IMHO..this global warming "scare" is not that bad..i mean people are being more aware of the environment and many businesses are looking into clean,renewable technologies..some people say that the focus on CO2(emission reduction,energy tax,CO2 credits) is misleading and are the schemes of opportunistic people..let me just say that the pollution where CO2 comes from have far more dangerous compounds than CO2 like sulfur dioxide,lead,methane,CO,etc from car exhausts,factories and from the farming industry..if we try to cut down on carbon dioxide,we are also doing a favor by cutting down on these other compounds and prevent more harm..also clean,renewable technologies like solar,wind,hydrogen,desalination are given more emphasis..its better to be proactive and prevent more harm to the environment rather than waiting to believe or not if global warming is a fact or a myth..

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    tinuod ni oi.. global warming existed way back in the stone age and the process goes on and on. how would you explain a mammoth horn found in the middle of the ocean? meaning land na sauna then due to global warming and melting of the polar ice, sudden rise of sea levels.
    di nmn needed ang mga "slide show presentation" ni Al Gore para ma convince ang mga taw na tnuod neh, wala mo initi?

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    it's good to know that many of you here are aware of this issue...we're almost at the point of no return and we must act NOW before it's too late..i think we can still do something about this..

  5. #85
    I've seen Al Gore's documentary and it's all plain fact. No questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kobmat View Post
    Al Gore is only capitalizing on peoples fears. I think the global warming hoax in the future will be in line with the Y2K hysteria.
    Of course, not only Al Gore, but people who research about global warming has been giving out information globally. Pero unsaon ra man sad nato ang information if we don't really know too well about these scientific people are talking about.

    So, in Al Gore's way, he uses vigilance (this is my opinion of course) and, in a way, feeds fear to the human race. You know how human nature goes, we only change when we are days/hours away of our end/death. Mura ra na ug atong mama gud na kapila yawyawan na ayaw na sige ug pabadlung, nya sige gihapon ta ug pabadlung, hangtod na mapuspusan nuon ug mga sanga sa ipil-ipil.

    As for global warming likened to the Y2k hysteria, I'm not quite sure of this because they are way different. The Y2k thing does not really concern about human lives, whereas global warming, we have felt, seen it and we will still feel it and see it in the next years to come.

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    Global warming is probably a fact but my question is - don't you think this is but a natural phenomenon. The world existed for millions, probably billions of years, how can humans affect its natural course?
    I don't have a scientific proof though..heheh

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    I don't have proof though (obviously an understatement) but I think that this is all part of a cycle. A constant evolution wherein Earth will reach its limit by giving signs, like constant climate change, and eventually gives out the "cleaning process" (global warming, natural disasters, etc) to start anew.

    My theory is that, Earth has been through numerous "restarts" and today's phase that we are experiencing is part of a "cleaning" event. Mura'g gi-reformat kunohay ba. :P

    Maybe proofs of previous occupants before our time are the mysterious Nazca lines, Stonehenge, pyramids, etc. But then again, this is just my theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lunateec22 View Post
    I don't have proof though (obviously an understatement) but I think that this is all part of a cycle. A constant evolution wherein Earth will reach its limit by giving signs, like constant climate change, and eventually gives out the "cleaning process" (global warming, natural disasters, etc) to start anew.

    My theory is that, Earth has been through numerous "restarts" and today's phase that we are experiencing is part of a "cleaning" event. Mura'g gi-reformat kunohay ba. :P

    Maybe proofs of previous occupants before our time are the mysterious Nazca lines, Stonehenge, pyramids, etc. But then again, this is just my theory.
    the idea of cyclical geological change has been around for sometime. there had been cooling (ice age) and warming periods. but what makes this climate change currently happening different from the past is the rate (paspas ra kaayo than before) and human activity as a factor.

    the stonehenge, pyramids, etc are indeed remnants of structures constructed by ancient people.

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