AFP Modernization in Full Swing

[noy.juan]

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Uhm I don't quite get what you mean...

the reasons why MSSR is developed because the usual engagement are close not long range... now as what ive asked on timawa.net why not AR10, they answered that is impractical since we already have a 7.62 rifle the M14 (as what ive understand) the PMC already have some accurized M14 and not M21/M25 or even EBR... why i asked AR10? because AR10 is the basic 7.62 AR designed rifle... SR-25 is based from it. and this is what stoner developed before AR15 (AFAIK)...

beside having multiple rifle even if its cool... is not actually cool... its a logistical nightmare.... AR10/SR25 maybe AR designed they dont share the same magazine... M14 mag need to be modified to work and its not recommended... the secret of the MSSR is in its Ammo and heavy barrel...

if other units have it... then good let them have the nightmare PMC are just keeping it simple and practical..

[hulagway]

goodbye maestrale?

http://www.pna.gov.ph/index.php?idn=...id=&rid=500426

[dbalagosa]

goodbye maestrale?

http://www.pna.gov.ph/index.php?idn=...id=&rid=500426

dili maka load imo link boss. suwayi dao copy paste lang ang content dire. naa na bitaw ka source gipost.

[hulagway]

No more second frigates for PN - DND official

MANILA, Feb. 22 (PNA) -- A ranking Department of National Defense (DND) official has said the option to acquire second-hand frigates to boost the numbers and capabilities of the Philippine Navy (PN) has been waived.

Fernando Manalo, DND undersecretary for finance, munitions,installation and materiel, said this because evaluation studies found out that acquiring these vessels will be more costly in the long run.

"The PN found out that it will be more expensive to maintain second hand vessel(s) than buying a new one," he added.

With this conclusion, the Italian-made "Maestrale" frigates, are no longer in the running for possible acquisition by the Philippines.

"Its no longer being evaluated," Manalo stressed.

The "Maestrale" was earlier touted by the DND as the next ships to be acquired for the PN due to its credible missile and anti-submarine capabilities.

With this development, Manalo said the Philippines is now looking for new build naval ships with the same configuration.

The DND earlier said that five countries have expressed their intention to sell the Philippines modern frigates and offshore patrol vessels which will help the country protect its vast maritime territories.

These offers came from the United States, Israel, Croatia, South Korea and Australia.

All vessels being offered by these nations are brand new.

Manalo added that offers of the above-mentioned countries started coming during the last quarter of 2012.

The DND official attributed the sudden influx of would-be-suppliers to the fact the Philippine is now seriously upgrading its military forces.

The Philippines is in the market for two modern and powerful frigates in order to enhance its maritime domain awareness and protection capabilities. (PNA)

http://www.pna.gov.ph/

[KlaytoN]

goes to show the govt has now some extra budget to spare for considering brand new- big ticket purchases. Unlike before, we always make do with second hand or refurbished equipment that is more prone to corruption.

[digitalsuperman]

goes to show the govt has now some extra budget to spare for considering brand new- big ticket purchases. Unlike before, we always make do with second hand or refurbished equipment that is more prone to corruption.

probably because just recently malampaya project just handed over $1billion of cash to the government for its share of the profit.

[KlaytoN]

Sa akong nakita nga post ni Adroth in my interpretation it's a done deal already, PIRMADO NA ANG FA-50 DEAL!

Retitled: Surface Attack Aircraft (SAA) / Lead-In Fighter Trainer (LIFT) project

[crisxahia]

if its coming from Adroth of timawa then it is legitimate.. what we do now if wait for the official press release regarding it...

finally CONGRATS TO OUR PAF and MORE POWER!!

brokenhearted on what happen to our Maestrale acquisition...

[digitalsuperman]

if its coming from Adroth of timawa then it is legitimate.. what we do now if wait for the official press release regarding it...

finally CONGRATS TO OUR PAF and MORE POWER!!

brokenhearted on what happen to our Maestrale acquisition...

huh? nganong ma brokenhearted man ka? imo gibasa ang news article? they will not purchase a used maestrale, they will buy a brand new instead.

[C'thulhu]

the reasons why MSSR is developed because the usual engagement are close not long range... now as what ive asked on timawa.net why not AR10, they answered that is impractical since we already have a 7.62 rifle the M14 (as what ive understand) the PMC already have some accurized M14 and not M21/M25 or even EBR... why i asked AR10? because AR10 is the basic 7.62 AR designed rifle... SR-25 is based from it. and this is what stoner developed before AR15 (AFAIK)...

beside having multiple rifle even if its cool... is not actually cool... its a logistical nightmare.... AR10/SR25 maybe AR designed they dont share the same magazine... M14 mag need to be modified to work and its not recommended... the secret of the MSSR is in its Ammo and heavy barrel...

if other units have it... then good let them have the nightmare PMC are just keeping it simple and practical..

If I may share my inputs, at that time, the MSSR was developed by using commercial off the shelf parts, hence it is much easier and cheaper to assemble. Compared to lets say the AR10 platform you espoused, not much available parts during that time as .308/7.62 ARs are not that popular yet. This platform is also not for general issue as this is a specialized rifle for use by the PMC for intermediate range engagements where a semi-auto is preferred for faster follow-up shots. The 7.62 platforms are still the mainstay of the sniper units where the primary rifles are the M24 for the PA and M40 for the PMC both of which is based on the Remington 700. The Accurized M14s you mentioned is to my knowledge not used as sniper rifles but as designated marksman's rifles. The mission drives the gear-train, in the case of the PMC which wanted a tool for intermediate range engagements and found that the 5.56 loaded with OTM bullets do very well in that range.

The SR-25s of the LRB are donated by Uncle Sam during the time the unit is still the LRC, which is patterned after their own counter-terrorist unit. Not only did they trained the unit, they also equipped them with the same equipment they used at that time. And before the semi-automatic sniper system became in-vogue in the US Army, those elite units are already pushing for adoption of that system into the mainstream sniper units. Oh and they won't be having nightmares with logistics as the unit with the SR25s are used differently than regular units and they have their own logistics-train.

Now if you mean is for us to manufacture an AR10 based platform, that proposition would not be practical as our primary general issue rifle is based on the 5.56, with a smattering of 7.62 M14s here and there.

jm2cw...