Tinuod ba may porgatoryo?

[Malic]

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just for curiousity

Does allah give free will?

I have a different allah in my mind and yes he gives freewill.

[honey89]

I see, never mind. let us say for the sake of discussion that the Christian version of Soteriology is correct, why would someone like the Old Testament god gives unfavorable judgement on those Souls that do not believe in the crucifixion? what happened to freewill?

I will answer you as honestly as I can. When it comes to faith, you can consider me a baby, so there's not much I know about Soteriology. I don't even know what it means. You can, however, explain it to me so I will be enlightened.

If there's one thing I believe in, though, God gives us the free will so we'll be able to make full use of every gift he has given us, for example, talent. He gives us the freedom to determine the best way we can use it for our and other people's advantage.

As for me--as I can only speak for what I believe in--to believe in the Crucifixion is to have faith on the promises of Christ that we have been saved. It's just up to us to decide if we are going to take the grace of salvation or not. Also, to believe in the Crucifixion is to have the tenacity to be humble and to repent for someone died to pay for our sins.

[gabstafari]

I have a different allah in my mind and yes he gives freewill.

okay. thanks for reply

[Saint_hard]

d kay daghan tanan jud..ahahahaha remember all of us are sinner bya according to the bible..

so walay ma langit nato ani diay?

[rclong_rey]

yeah that's the problem because there is no such thing as perfect..

mao na mga dili tanan mapasaylo kay lisod mahimong perfect sa karun nga panahon..
but we need to try hard for this not to say no such thing as perfect.
unsa may pulos sa pgpakatawo ni Jesus..
nagpakatawo siya para pag prove nga bisan ug human ta we can be perfect..
if we are concern for salvation, we must conquer the perfection..
but even mamatay nga di pefect, basta dili lang pod ka angayan ma imperno nya di pa pud angayan malangit,, if tuo mo ug cleansing place, then makatabang pa nato ang prayers sa uban nga maka hinumdum nato...
2 machabees 12:46 "it is therefore a Holy and Wholesome thought to pray for the dead, that they may be loosed from sins"

[gabstafari]

I will answer you as honestly as I can. When it comes to faith, you can consider me a baby, so there's not much I know about Soteriology. I don't even know what it means. You can, however, explain it to me so I will be enlightened.

If there's one thing I believe in, though, God gives us the free will so we'll be able to make full use of every gift he has given us, for example, talent. He gives us the freedom to determine the best way we can use it for our and other people's advantage.

As for me--as I can only speak for what I believe in--to believe in the Crucifixion is to have faith on the promises of Christ that we have been saved. It's just up to us to decide if we are going to take the grace of salvation or not. Also, to believe in the Crucifixion is to have the tenacity to be humble and to repent for someone died to pay for our sins.

and not to believe in crucifixion doesn't mean you are going to hell.

[dartzed]

so walay ma langit nato ani diay?

well some guys here believes in the mercy of God..

ana cla kad2ng naas kamot sa ginuo naa daw chance..

ana sad ang uban kad2ng naas purgatoryo naa sad daw chance..

and according to the bible murag parehas raman nang duha, ambot nganu naglalis na cla ganiha.. mga libog clag utok..ahahaha

[rclong_rey]

so walay ma langit nato ani diay?

naa japun, i trace sa daan ang imo religion karun ug mao ba na ang mismo gitukod ni Christ..
if maprove na nimo, study more about your religion... important nga naa kay knowledge ana...
for example Roman catholic ko.. I must know and read Catholicism.. remember Bible is not only solely source of salvation, ky dili tanan kamatuuran gisulat sa Bible.. example, kanang porgatory.. revealed truth na pero not word for word mabasa pero naay phrase mabasa ug sabton is porgatory ra japun.

[dartzed]

mao na mga dili tanan mapasaylo kay lisod mahimong perfect sa karun nga panahon..
but we need to try hard for this not to say no such thing as perfect.
unsa may pulos sa pgpakatawo ni Jesus..
nagpakatawo siya para pag prove nga bisan ug human ta we can be perfect..
if we are concern for salvation, we must conquer the perfection..
but even mamatay nga di pefect, basta dili lang pod ka angayan ma imperno nya di pa pud angayan malangit,, if tuo mo ug cleansing place, then makatabang pa nato ang prayers sa uban nga maka hinumdum nato...
2 machabees 12:46 "it is therefore a Holy and Wholesome thought to pray for the dead, that they may be loosed from sins"

mao btaw sa RC bsag namatay na ila kafamily deli jud makalimtan ipray jud japon..

even ang saints nag.ampo pa japon..

Revelation 5:8 - saints pray

pasabot even if mamatay ka pwede japon ka magrepent or kad2ng naay sala nga pwede pa maluwas..

[Saint_hard]

mao na mga dili tanan mapasaylo kay lisod mahimong perfect sa karun nga panahon..
but we need to try hard for this not to say no such thing as perfect.
unsa may pulos sa pgpakatawo ni Jesus..
nagpakatawo siya para pag prove nga bisan ug human ta we can be perfect..
if we are concern for salvation, we must conquer the perfection..
but even mamatay nga di pefect, basta dili lang pod ka angayan ma imperno nya di pa pud angayan malangit,, if tuo mo ug cleansing place, then makatabang pa nato ang prayers sa uban nga maka hinumdum nato...
2 machabees 12:46 "it is therefore a Holy and Wholesome thought to pray for the dead, that they may be loosed from sins"

Libog man ka bro