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  1. #811

    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    two links provided here: from Yahoo, from Spokesman

    my goodness james, Spokesman provided nothing not even a link. The article was written in a LOCAL newspaper by a certain Alan Alexander, is this guy a scientists? where did he got his basis for his conclusion that Lucy is fraud?

    the other link is from Yahoo, and after the article in the bottom a link is provided that leads to Science/AAAS | Scientific research, news and career information

    and if we compare the two articles the former looks more like a tabloid with no reference from real scientists.

    I say yahoo is more credible.
    don't be surprised bro Malic if creationists here like James, Kebz, etc. starts debunking LUCY.

    creationists are known to discredit facts in attempt to prove others that they are right without backing up their claims.

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    the lack pf knowledge in science has a different reality and understanding . their refer more to the irrationals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    Of course its not about dirt to man malic. Its the question of the creator they kept denying to believe...

    ever heard of Theistic Evolution?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chad_tukes View Post
    don't be surprised bro Malic if creationists here like James, Kebz, etc. starts debunking LUCY.

    creationists are known to discredit facts in attempt to prove others that they are right without backing up their claims.
    so true Chad...so true...

  5. #815
    Quote Originally Posted by chad_tukes View Post
    you aren't getting the whole point, are you? obviously not. do i have to keep repeating myself what evolution means? EVOLUTION - ROOT WORD "EVOLVE". Evolve means to gradually change over a span of time. do not mix evolution with your creationist ideals because it would taste like coffee mixed with pepper and salt. EVO is one big jigsaw puzzle that scientists/archeologists are trying to complete and this article describes just one huge piece of it---that's why i said it's groundbreaking.

    MAY? oh i know how to read. that's why it's called THEORY. the only difference is WE HAVE EVIDENCE AND YOU DO NOT.

    fair enough?

    EVO is one big jigsaw puzzle that scientists/archeologists are trying to complete and this article describes just one huge piece of it
    ---- yes you are right, a jig saw... making stories again and again....

    Nebraska Man was the name applied by the popular press to Hesperopithecus haroldcookii, a putative species of ape. Hesperopithecus meant "ape of the western world" and it was heralded as the first higher primate of North America. Though not a deliberate hoax,[citation needed] the classification proved to be a mistake.

    --- and its identification as an ape was retracted in the journal Science in 1927.[
    --- Further field work on the site in 1925 revealed that the tooth was falsely identified

    add lucy to your collection, and now ardi... hmmm... its never ending lie.

    What you are believing is making a BOAT with Paper and Scissors believing you can sail with it. I want to watch you do it... in your dreams? hmmmm.
    Last edited by kebotDiNaMute; 10-03-2009 at 12:46 AM.

  6. #816
    Quote Originally Posted by cromagnon View Post
    this modern century , this deep desire to understand is through science . we want to know whats before the big bang.

    theories . m- theory and the parallel universes.
    That would be very safe to say that the CREATIONIST was owned by EVOLUTIONIST . That the THEORY now is a FACT . If science can only find out what was before the BIGBANG THEORY and it should debunk all the arguments presented by the CREATIONIST . WHy ? Its because the EVOLUTIONIST's BIGBANG THEORY is closely related to the CREATIONIST'S 1st day of creation , the separation of the NIGHT and DAY , DARK and LIGHT respectively . So if there is something else earlier than BIGBANG ... nothing is earlier than the first day of creation so it justifies that the Book of Genesis is indeed a STORY not worth telling .

    If they can only present something na fact about just anything before BIGBANG ... it is indeed a BREAKTROUGH ! It will put to an end sa lalis sa EVOLUTION and CREATION once and for all .

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    For the moment and hope in our LIFETIME , we'll wait for more SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH regarding the origin of BIGBANG and dont discount yet the story of creation as a basis of summarized presentation versus the evolution's systematic and detailed theory .
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  7. #817
    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    two links provided here: from Yahoo, from Spokesman

    my goodness james, Spokesman provided nothing not even a link. The article was written in a LOCAL newspaper by a certain Alan Alexander, is this guy a scientists? where did he got his basis for his conclusion that Lucy is fraud?

    the other link is from Yahoo, and after the article in the bottom a link is provided that leads to Science/AAAS | Scientific research, news and career information

    and if we compare the two articles the former looks more like a tabloid with no reference from real scientists.

    I say yahoo is more credible.

    Malic if the person cannot back up his story and make things public... you know whats the legal consequence right? Why would one take the risk and upto today nobody can refute the idea presented... why because there are possibilities on the story...

    its called his-story or my-story. Evolution is about story... used science to make you believe. I love the story by the way.. i just don't believe it...

  8. #818
    Quote Originally Posted by chad_tukes View Post
    don't be surprised bro Malic if creationists here like James, Kebz, etc. starts debunking LUCY.

    creationists are known to discredit facts in attempt to prove others that they are right without backing up their claims.
    Ngayo a backup sa claims chad... here it is...


    The Lucy skeleton is supposed to be an intermediate between ape and man. There has been a lot of discussion of Lucy's knee joint by creationists and much misunderstanding. The best I can now determine is that there were 2 knee joints, one found nearby and one far away. The one found far away was found two to three kilometers away from the skull and 60-70 meters deeper in the strata. Dr. Johansen does not claim that the knee joint belonged to Lucy. Instead, it was part of another fossil he found some time earlier. He does put them together logically, though, claiming that they were of the same species. This whole issue is discussed at length in the talk.origins FAQ. Lucy is an example of Australopithecus afarensis, and other examples of this species have been found since then.

    Dr. Charles Oxnard completed the most sophisticated computer analysis of australopithecine fossils ever undertaken, and concluded that the australopithecines have nothing to do with the ancestry of man whatsoever, and are simply an extinct form of ape (Fossils, Teeth and ***: New Perspectives on Human Evolution, University of Washington Press, 1987).

    did the science community, prove him wrong? no... science community hears another story... they just dont want that story...

  9. #819
    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    EVO is one big jigsaw puzzle that scientists/archeologists are trying to complete and this article describes just one huge piece of it
    ---- yes you are right, a jig saw... making stories again and again....

    Nebraska Man was the name applied by the popular press to Hesperopithecus haroldcookii, a putative species of ape. Hesperopithecus meant "ape of the western world" and it was heralded as the first higher primate of North America. Though not a deliberate hoax,[citation needed] the classification proved to be a mistake.

    --- and its identification as an ape was retracted in the journal Science in 1927.[
    --- Further field work on the site in 1925 revealed that the tooth was falsely identified

    add lucy to your collection, and now ardi... hmmm... its never ending lie.

    What you are believing is making a BOAT with Paper and Scissors believing you can sail with it. I want to watch you do it... in your dreams? hmmmm.
    where'd you get your sources from?

    wiki? don't rely on wiki... wiki can be edited by my 6 year old brother. post your sources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    EVO is one big jigsaw puzzle that scientists/archeologists are trying to complete and this article describes just one huge piece of it
    ---- yes you are right, a jig saw... making stories again and again....

    Nebraska Man was the name applied by the popular press to Hesperopithecus haroldcookii, a putative species of ape. Hesperopithecus meant "ape of the western world" and it was heralded as the first higher primate of North America. Though not a deliberate hoax,[citation needed] the classification proved to be a mistake.

    --- and its identification as an ape was retracted in the journal Science in 1927.[
    --- Further field work on the site in 1925 revealed that the tooth was falsely identified

    add lucy to your collection, and now ardi... hmmm... its never ending lie.

    What you are believing is making a BOAT with Paper and Scissors believing you can sail with it. I want to watch you do it... in your dreams? hmmmm.

    allow me to say something about this...


    The Nebraska man was like what? a thousand years ago? Evolution using the fossil evidence as proof had gone a long way already kebz. Recent discoveries of fossil had shaped the theory smoothly.

    why do you always focus on the failed experiments? i see no point but only desperation to prove you are right. naa man untay mga accurate nga mga evidence and results.

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