K to 12, bakit native tongue ang advise ng DepEd?

[PaYaSo]

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if we are planning to have our kids to be employed in a call center. this is an advantage. i didnt say nga wla gyud advantage ha. im just stating my point of view on what i usually see in rural barangay like the school in which my wife is teaching. if you only see the situation bro for sure you would agree with me.

same sa analogy sa telenovelas and hollywood series which do you think ang mas ganahan sa atong mga tao? they opt to watch telenovelas coz its easy for them to understand and easy for them to relate. it doesn't mean that using the native tongue in teaching will only make students "bogo" coz the fundamentals in teaching are still there, only that, the instructions are done in our native tongue. it will be the same reading,writing and arithmetic fundamentals.

makakita ka bro kng englisan nimu ang mga bata bukid mgtanga lng coz they dont understand what the teacher is telling them. a teacher will take 1 week for a lesson to finish instead of just 2 days coz the students didnt understand what the teacher is talking about.

it was never said that English will no longer be taught in school. starting grade 4 English will be part of the student's subjects. teaching them English at this stage is still never too late unlike in India where they insert English subject in grade 5.

[flanker]

Fluency in English doesn't give an advantage? sa kron nga naglata ang call center? nga ang trabaho naa sa gawas sa nasod?
bai, we are training ourselves not for the past but for our future. anything that will improve us or prepare our kids for a better future is important. we are required to take IELTS, TOEFL, unsa pa nang mga english proficiency exams para lang maka work or study abroad. why not train our kids while they are young? lahi tag baruganan ana bai. maybe wa pa nimo nakita ang kagamit ana. remember, third world country pa ang pilipinas. nagpaabot rata sa mga Foreign investors nga mosulod sa atong nasod (hinoon laing topic nana). English is the universal language. everybody is learning it. in china & in vietnam bai, naglata ang mga english training schools kay wa man na naapil sa ilang curriculum ang english sauna. so is it an advantage? i say YES.

ako nalng sad i add bai... it is too late for us to say nga ang ubang nasod lagi, bisan di kabalo og english competitive man.
we have to look at those countries & study them. lahi sila og history sa ato. example Japan has a very rich history & the people are very different from us. they have pride, while kita daghan pride but murag sabon ra. mawagtang pagmabasa.
we have to look into the future. English & mandarin will be widely spoken.

hinoon discussion raman ning ato, wa najud ni mahimo kay di man ta tagaDep Ed..wahaha

I agree, fluency in English is a big advantage. Especially if you want to work abroad where skills and communication are the main factor.

[Eve's Apple Project]

@payaso mao sad na bai. so basically ang mahimo rajud nato kay "Band-aid" sa problema & not really a solution as they(Dep-Ed) are saying. i was not even very keen on english as the medium instead i prefer FILIPINO, then english on some subjects. Pero tan-awn nimo bai, sa kadugay sa panahon wa pajud tawn kasulbad sa problema ang govt, cge lang aning TEMPORARY style (pero permanente diay) nga pag-ayo sa educasyon. I HOPE naa na jud tawn saktong Budget para sa educasyon (og dili sad isulod sa bulsa). nipuno lagi og budget karon, pun-an man sad og K+12..butangi?!

[PaYaSo]

mao lagi bai. maayu unta msaka na ang quality sa atong education. mao ni ang usa nga mgpasaka sa atong nasud in years to come. we have the human resources but sadly we cant exploit it due to lack of quality education.

[diatabz]

but fluency in English doesn't give a student an advantage over others. English is not the only subject in school.

native tongue is only used in grades 1 to 3.

In this age of globalization, English proficiency is a clear advantage. Why else are the Koreans racing to learn the language? Ask any of them, they'll tell you it makes them more competitive in the jobs market. Same goes for the Chinese.

[PaYaSo]

no one argues about English and globally competitive. what we are talking here is about our students. what is a faster way for them to grasp their lesson.

as i said on my earlier post, English will not be removed in our Curriculum it will only be inserted starting Grade 4.


sa katong nakaagi ug public school ingna kong bakakon pro inyong maestra ngbinisaya pgtudlo ninyo pag elementary.

this issue is only sensationalized bcoz it came from DepEd. where in fact using native tongue happened long time ago.

[sakagawasan]

Hehe, gikan hiskul hangtud college bisaya ug english gyud gigamit sa maestra ug maestro except english ug filipino subjects. Usa sad na sa timailhan nga ang nagtudlo nakasabot sa iyang giyawyaw kaysa maestra nga gibasa ra ang libro pgtudlo.

Pero unique man gyud matag usa nato so di gyud ta magkapareha og mga baruganan sa kinabuhi.

[jofer]

just be a proud Filipino. Nawala naman gud na karon. I even heard sa carenderia diha sa It park dapit nipalit ug inon unan, gi english pa.

kahinumdom nuon ko ug "Miss, can i have 2 hanging rices and 1 dried fish" and "Mom, can you please pass the ketchup (nya monggos ang sud an)"

thats our sad reality. bisan mo sud ko sa balay sa akong agaw, diha sa baryo luz ug sa private... ang balay mga shanties yet they speak english with accent pa. di ba murag manggilok imong lawas maminaw?

ma relate nako sa south america esp rio grande, brazil.. ang mga prostitutes kahibaw na mo tagalog. ni adapt na sila kay para maka kwarta lang. kay daghan man seaman mo gamit nila.

layua ra nimo sa diskusyon oi.we are not talking about loving of one's language.ang pangutana nganu gi apil sa curriculum ang pag gamit sa ato dialect.para nko lang no such a waste of time ang money lang jud ni na k to 12 all in all.daghan pa jud unta kaau ma address na issue when it comes to education diri sa pinas.
lahi naman na na issue imo gi ingon na pls pass the ketchup.nag muna muna ka man kaha diay ininglis sa france nya nakatabang?pero maau na lang gani nakasabot japun nimo.samot na kaha ato language imo gamit.praktikalay ba.

[Cybernaut]

Tagalog is not a dialect, it is a language. I thought mother tongue is a language class about the mother tongue not teaching the subjects using the students native language.

No. Tagalog is a dialect. You can check it in its meaning.

[Cybernaut]

Fluency in English doesn't give an advantage? sa kron nga naglata ang call center? nga ang trabaho naa sa gawas sa nasod?
bai, we are training ourselves not for the past but for our future. anything that will improve us or prepare our kids for a better future is important. we are required to take IELTS, TOEFL, unsa pa nang mga english proficiency exams para lang maka work or study abroad. why not train our kids while they are young? lahi tag baruganan ana bai. maybe wa pa nimo nakita ang kagamit ana. remember, third world country pa ang pilipinas. nagpaabot rata sa mga Foreign investors nga mosulod sa atong nasod (hinoon laing topic nana). English is the universal language. everybody is learning it. in china & in vietnam bai, naglata ang mga english training schools kay wa man na naapil sa ilang curriculum ang english sauna. so is it an advantage? i say YES.

ako nalng sad i add bai... it is too late for us to say nga ang ubang nasod lagi, bisan di kabalo og english competitive man.
we have to look at those countries & study them. lahi sila og history sa ato. example Japan has a very rich history & the people are very different from us. they have pride, while kita daghan pride but murag sabon ra. mawagtang pagmabasa.
we have to look into the future. English & mandarin will be widely spoken.

hinoon discussion raman ning ato, wa najud ni mahimo kay di man ta tagaDep Ed..wahaha

Disagree ko ani. Makaguol man kau hunahunaon ning mentalidad nato kung mag hunahuna lang tag call center ug abroad. Nganong call center ug abroad ra man? Buot ba nato ipasabot nga ang tanan o kadaghanan nga tawo sa Pilipinas motrabahog call center, o moadtog abroad? Gamay ra tawon ang porsyento nato ang maka abroad ug maka call center. Kadaghanan sa mga Pinoy naa intawon sa trabaho diin fluency sa English dili jud magamit. Ayaw intawon isakripisyo ang kadaghanan kung ang inyong ambisyon sa kinabuhi mao lang ang pagpanarbaho sa call center o moabroad ba.

Para nako pa tsoy2x ra ning English. Lisod na nga kabalo man tuod tag English pero way sulod ang utok. Manarbaho nalang daun ug call center kay English ra man ang nahibaw-an. O mo abroad ba hinoon para mahimung sulugoon sa mga langyaw. Kaluoy sa mga Pilipino kung kana ray padulngan.

Pero kung native tongue ang gamit sa pag-edukar dali ra mosulod ang leksyon sa utok kay sayon ra man sabton. Kadghanan dayon sa Pilipino edukado na. Kay edukado naman, modako ang tsansa nga kita na ang manag-iyag call center ug ang mga langyaw na unya ang moabroad sa atong nasod.

Hunahunaa konog ayo.