Try my VoIP guys. PC to cebu local calls for free.

[kisntel]

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subscribing to this thread sir.. thanks kaayo. gamit ni dah kay prepaid ra amo landline. hehe ako pud gi try tawag mobile landline sa ako ate. may nalang maka save ug load sa text. hehe two thumbs up..

[ldl5165]

as Stated "telephone calls are not the property of PLDT, but to the callers themselves". can they justify the use of voice calls using like yahoo to yahoo, skype to skype, Dost to DOST, Our Government encouraging us to use VoIP they serve the service of voice communication and giving it for free.

im not concern of their lose on how they earn money they may find alternative way or embrace the new era of communication, the big concern here is the consumers how to utilize the paid services they provide.

its up to you if you like to spend more money to service to an old way. knowing that there are lots of technology you can use and readily available.

wouldn't you fight for your own freedom?

of course, i do!

but again, this is ISR especially when this goes for public use. This is telco's claim. Your effort is really appreciated and fyi, i am one of your users. i just want to warn you that anytime, your local line will be cut-off when the telco catch you on this. you can't do anything and you can't sue them as well. when you line is off, we can no longer use.

there is still no law re VoIP. Yahoo-to-Yahoo, skype to skype, meaning PC-to-PC calls are fine. But when you pass thru to legacy PSTN network of telcos, that's the time you are monitored.

Again, this is telco's argument - when you use our legacy PSTN network, you have to pay us. If you use the internet for your calls, that is fine. But when you go beyond internet and pass thru our PSTN, then u pay us unless we will cut off your local tel line.

How to deal with this? Push Congress to pass a law re VoIP.

[dammy]

im paying the service for internet and voice. in voice still im using it for voice communication, in internet still using data in a form of packets. where did i go wrong?

[junmar4]

im paying the service for internet and voice. in voice still im using it for voice communication, in internet still using data in a form of packets. where did i go wrong?

I do agree, unless the prepaid imong telephone line nga dili katawag if walay load.
as always, these companies is trying their very beast, aw best diay, to impose nga sila jud magbuot. tsk. tsk. sige pa ingon ug innovations... nya mopalag sa innovations...

@dammy - unsa na latest sa cellphone calls? hehehehehe

[catch]

I haven't used the number but your service sounds great. 5 out of 5!

[ldl5165]

im paying the service for internet and voice. in voice still im using it for voice communication, in internet still using data in a form of packets. where did i go wrong?

as i said, you did nothing wrong. but telco's see it as not allowed when you cross from internet to traditional "voice". It is just that telco's do not want this to happen and they can do it coz they can cut your voice line without any legal impediments.

you know what, I have a friend who did this already 4 years ago! same setup with you and he even planned to go public but very unfortunate that telco caught him and his lines were cut. when he went to the competitor, he was also denied coz these telco's share info for those ISR operators.

[dammy]

ok. if thats so ill make a call for conference and introduce VoIP technology. and calling big VoIP providers out there to invest here.

Government give them a license to serve voice and internet and if they don't give a good service probably government will get their license back.

i hate this topic and hate to be in a corner. maybe ill ask the government to make laws about this as soon as possible. many ofws out there that need communications. we are paying the right price as for the right service they provide. as a user i have the right to use the service that they provide beyond that i have no more rights.

im using the voice as voice, im using internet as data in a form of packets.

[monrose29]

hehehe i remember those days nga ma-o pay pag sikat sa voip cge lang ko travel2x kay ako may installer..deli nalang kaayo mo go in to details.. but lingaw ka ayo among experienced ato oi...

anyway... before sa bag-o pa neh nga set-up daghan gyud gipang kiha ang pldt and globe aneh but pilde sila sa decision....

PLDT lost its Supreme Court case where it tried to float the idea that so-called “International Simple Resale” (ISR) constituted the crime of “theft” of telephone calls and/or PLDT’s business … The Supreme Court decision is a crushing defeat for PLDT since it ruled that telephone calls are not the property of PLDT, but to the callers themselves.

link...
VoIP International Simple Resale – is it now legal? | Pinoy Tech Blog - The Philippines' Premier Technology Blog

[netcommando]

@ldl5165, pls define sir what is an ISR to u?

@dammy, too bad we don't have techies in the senate and congress that supports free services because of no money for their pockets, he he he

callcenters do this things big time, mostly they used avaya, cisco and others... why can't we for a single line that to be used for free?

[mr.twin]

ok na sya paka tabang....pero daghan na sad voip provider nga barato ra 7 pesos per mins international call nindot ang quality.. mga ofw ako share ninyo pra unli nyo txt kay mahal international txt.. buy mo sim card kon asa mo nga country din ipa activate daan ang roaming nga services nya padala ninyo pinas.. some provider auto roaming pareho same sa ako provider.. so nagpadala ko sim card sa pinas nya g roaming didto so adto ko txt ato nga number.. if how much ang cost sa imo local txt sa imo country same cost pod kay roaming man.. akong txt from middle east to pinas 1.00 peso per txt ra oi .. wla sawang txt din.......

dli pod ko try call ani kay using skype man gblock man sa telco dri ang skype.. mao gamit ta ko x-lite or any softphone na pang sip protocol..

thanks