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  1. #71

    Since forbidden man sa mga Muslim....then I dont think we need to question....just like Sadiq Malic said....

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    Quote Originally Posted by clydex View Post
    bro tanx for your question:

    d u read bible pls read this Lev. 11:7 and Isa. 66:17-18
    if not looy ka! kataw-an ka sa muslim ug other christin na dili mokaon ug baboy..

    sa Old testament gdili jud na ang pagkaon sa sa baboy and it is a sin..did catholic priest told u bout this?

    tapos si prophet Isaiah is Phopesying that is eating swine flesh will be consumed from hell.

    Moingon dayon dha ang pastor prostestant ug catholic na ghinlu-an na;

    to think g-tagna na daan ni propeta isaiah na ma-imperyerno jud ang mokaon ug baboy. That it means "future" umaabotay pa wala pa mahitabo ang gtagna ni isaiah..

    so buot pasabot bro. ang pagkaon sa baboy hugaw.. our body is the temple of God so kinsa mag hugaw2x sa temple andam pod mopatay ang ginoo. .naa sa book of romans " And the wages of sin is death.. death means in the bible is a living hell.

    Dili ko muslim wala koy church..but i believe in God..i only trust bible and bible alone and no other book.

    I dont know if asa nag based ang muslim ug y dili cla mokaon ug baboy..
    brod, since you have your Bible....you might want to read ACTS 10 and 11....you can reflect on these chapters.


    ACTS 10

    The next day, while they were on their way and nearing the city, Peter went up to the roof terrace to pray at about noontime. He was hungry and wished to eat, and while they were making preparations he fell into a trance. He saw heaven opened and something resembling a large sheet coming down, lowered to the ground by its four corners. In it were all the earth's four-legged animals and reptiles and the birds of the sky. A voice said to him, "Get up, Peter. Slaughter and eat." But Peter said, "Certainly not, sir. For never have I eaten anything profane and unclean." The voice spoke to him again, a second time, "What God has made clean, you are not to call profane."Acts 10: 9-15



    Acts 11
    1And the apostles and brethren that were in Judaea heard that the Gentiles had also received the word of God.
    2And when Peter was come up to Jerusalem, they that were of the circumcision contended with him,
    3Saying, Thou wentest in to men uncircumcised, and didst eat with them.
    4But Peter rehearsed the matter from the beginning, and expounded it by order unto them, saying,
    5I was in the city of Joppa praying: and in a trance I saw a vision, A certain vessel descend, as it had been a great sheet, let down from heaven by four corners; and it came even to me:
    6Upon the which when I had fastened mine eyes, I considered, and saw fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
    7And I heard a voice saying unto me, Arise, Peter; slay and eat.
    8But I said, Not so, Lord: for nothing common or unclean hath at any time entered into my mouth.
    9But the voice answered me again from heaven, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
    10And this was done three times: and all were drawn up again into heaven.
    11And, behold, immediately there were three men already come unto the house where I was, sent from Caesarea unto me.
    12And the Spirit bade me go with them, nothing doubting. Moreover these six brethren accompanied me, and we entered into the man's house:
    13And he shewed us how he had seen an angel in his house, which stood and said unto him, Send men to Joppa, and call for Simon, whose surname is Peter;
    14Who shall tell thee words, whereby thou and all thy house shall be saved.
    15And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.
    16Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
    17Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God?
    18When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.
    19Now they which were scattered abroad upon the persecution that arose about Stephen travelled as far as Phenice, and Cyprus, and Antioch, preaching the word to none but unto the Jews only.
    20And some of them were men of Cyprus and Cyrene, which, when they were come to Antioch, spake unto the Grecians, preaching the LORD Jesus.
    21And the hand of the Lord was with them: and a great number believed, and turned unto the Lord.
    22Then tidings of these things came unto the ears of the church which was in Jerusalem: and they sent forth Barnabas, that he should go as far as Antioch.
    23Who, when he came, and had seen the grace of God, was glad, and exhorted them all, that with purpose of heart they would cleave unto the Lord.
    24For he was a good man, and full of the Holy Ghost and of faith: and much people was added unto the Lord.
    25Then departed Barnabas to Tarsus, for to seek Saul:
    26And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.
    27And in these days came prophets from Jerusalem unto Antioch.
    28And there stood up one of them named Agabus, and signified by the Spirit that there should be great dearth throughout all the world: which came to pass in the days of Claudius Caesar.
    29Then the disciples, every man according to his ability, determined to send relief unto the brethren which dwelt in Judaea:
    30Which also they did, and sent it to the elders by the hands of Barnabas and Saul.

  2. #72
    pasagdi lang ang atong mga igso-on kung dili sila moka-on ug baboy.

  3. #73
    Mark 7:15
    Nothing outside a man can make him 'unclean' by going into him. Rather, it is what comes out of a man that makes him 'unclean.' "

    maojud..sag nalang gud sila..wa bitaw sila nag question nato..

  4. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by Dentista On-Line View Post
    pasagdi lang ang atong mga igso-on kung dili sila moka-on ug baboy.
    yep. it's there conviction. All that's important is our souls be saved! by the LORD Jesus Christ

  5. #75
    Ang atu mga igso dili mukaon ug baboy dili tungod kay di sila ganahan ug baboy, kundi galagot sila sa baka, manok, kanding, isda ug uban pa mao mao na ila ginakaon...

  6. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Ang atu mga igso dili mukaon ug baboy dili tungod kay di sila ganahan ug baboy, kundi galagot sila sa baka, manok, kanding, isda ug uban pa mao mao na ila ginakaon...
    hehehe... duha na ta kataw-anan dinhi brad LOL.. ang ako pud pangutana ngano gibuhi pa man sa mga tagsa-tagsa nato nga Ginoo ang baboy nga maka-impyerno man diay na.. dli lang ko mu-question sa other animals like spider, baka og uban pa kay dli man maka-sunog sa ato soul bisan mapaakan ta snake ang body ra man nato ang mamatay but ang soul dili man... pero stop nalang ta brad, pasagdan nalang nato ang matag-usa nato nga pagtoo.

  7. #77
    AMEN to bai janry

  8. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by seven_segment View Post
    Since forbidden man sa mga Muslim....then I dont think we need to question....just like Sadiq Malic said....

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    brod, since you have your Bible....you might want to read ACTS 10 and 11....you can reflect on these chapters.


    ACTS 10

    The next day, while they were on their way and nearing the city, Peter went up to the roof terrace to pray at about noontime. He was hungry and wished to eat, and while they were making preparations he fell into a trance. He saw heaven opened and something resembling a large sheet coming down, lowered to the ground by its four corners. In it were all the earth's four-legged animals and reptiles and the birds of the sky. A voice said to him, "Get up, Peter. Slaughter and eat." But Peter said, "Certainly not, sir. For never have I eaten anything profane and unclean." The voice spoke to him again, a second time, "What God has made clean, you are not to call profane."Acts 10: 9-15



    Acts 11
    1And the apostles and brethren that were in Judaea heard that the Gentiles had also received the word of God.
    2And when Peter was come up to Jerusalem, they that were of the circumcision contended with him,
    3Saying, Thou wentest in to men uncircumcised, and didst eat with them.
    4But Peter rehearsed the matter from the beginning, and expounded it by order unto them, saying,
    5I was in the city of Joppa praying: and in a trance I saw a vision, A certain vessel descend, as it had been a great sheet, let down from heaven by four corners; and it came even to me:
    6Upon the which when I had fastened mine eyes, I considered, and saw fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
    7And I heard a voice saying unto me, Arise, Peter; slay and eat.
    8But I said, Not so, Lord: for nothing common or unclean hath at any time entered into my mouth.
    9But the voice answered me again from heaven, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
    10And this was done three times: and all were drawn up again into heaven.
    11And, behold, immediately there were three men already come unto the house where I was, sent from Caesarea unto me.
    12And the Spirit bade me go with them, nothing doubting. Moreover these six brethren accompanied me, and we entered into the man's house:
    13And he shewed us how he had seen an angel in his house, which stood and said unto him, Send men to Joppa, and call for Simon, whose surname is Peter;
    14Who shall tell thee words, whereby thou and all thy house shall be saved.
    15And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.
    16Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
    17Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God?
    18When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.
    19Now they which were scattered abroad upon the persecution that arose about Stephen travelled as far as Phenice, and Cyprus, and Antioch, preaching the word to none but unto the Jews only.
    20And some of them were men of Cyprus and Cyrene, which, when they were come to Antioch, spake unto the Grecians, preaching the LORD Jesus.
    21And the hand of the Lord was with them: and a great number believed, and turned unto the Lord.
    22Then tidings of these things came unto the ears of the church which was in Jerusalem: and they sent forth Barnabas, that he should go as far as Antioch.
    23Who, when he came, and had seen the grace of God, was glad, and exhorted them all, that with purpose of heart they would cleave unto the Lord.
    24For he was a good man, and full of the Holy Ghost and of faith: and much people was added unto the Lord.
    25Then departed Barnabas to Tarsus, for to seek Saul:
    26And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.
    27And in these days came prophets from Jerusalem unto Antioch.
    28And there stood up one of them named Agabus, and signified by the Spirit that there should be great dearth throughout all the world: which came to pass in the days of Claudius Caesar.
    29Then the disciples, every man according to his ability, determined to send relief unto the brethren which dwelt in Judaea:
    30Which also they did, and sent it to the elders by the hands of Barnabas and Saul.


    bro basaha ang title ug bahin ba na ug pagka-on...damgo kana ni pedro hubara ug unsay gpasabot ana (dili na literal pagkasulti) symbolical kana....kana mananap gpasabot ana bro kay " katawhan " ang gpasabot sa damgo ni pedro dili na bahin ug pagka-on..kundili katawhan ang gpasabot sa mananap.


    ug imu na cya hubaron " sa kalibotan dunay lain2x ug klase ang tawo dunay daotan duna pod dili daotan..
    so aron maluwas ta gpakamatyan ta sa Ginoo aron ta maka-ambit sa kaluwasan.


    ghinlo-an nya ang tanan mananap = g-pa-ambit ta ni jesus christ sa kaluwasan (tanan katawhan) aron ta maluwas ug apil.

    coz sauna panahon ang kaluwasan para ra sa mga israelites walay apil ang gentile.. so aron ta maka-ambit sa kaluwasan gpakamatyan ta sa ginoo aron ta maapil sa kaluwasan..


    mao nay saktong hubad sa damgo ni pedro..

  9. #79
    [QUOTE=sanggano_boy;4882914]Still living in the old testament?

    Mark 7:15
    Nothing outside a man can make him 'unclean' by going into him. Rather, it is what comes out of a man that makes him 'unclean.'
    "

    nya bro! ang baboy dili man mosulti na mahugaw pwd ra diay kan-on?...


    sayop ng imuha bro....


    naka basa ka sa book ni isaiah? gtagna na daan na ma-imperyerno or walay kaluwasan ang mokaon ug baboy..

    pls read isa. 66:17-18 future na gtagna ni prophet isaiah he is foretelling ug unsay dangatan sa mokaon ug baboy.. hubara daw na ang gtag-na ni prophet isaiah ug unsay gpasabot ana..

  10. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by clydex View Post
    bro basaha ang title ug bahin ba na ug pagka-on...damgo kana ni pedro hubara ug unsay gpasabot ana (dili na literal pagkasulti) symbolical kana....kana mananap gpasabot ana bro kay " katawhan " ang gpasabot sa damgo ni pedro dili na bahin ug pagka-on..kundili katawhan ang gpasabot sa mananap.


    ug imu na cya hubaron " sa kalibotan dunay lain2x ug klase ang tawo dunay daotan duna pod dili daotan..
    so aron maluwas ta gpakamatyan ta sa Ginoo aron ta maka-ambit sa kaluwasan.


    ghinlo-an nya ang tanan mananap = g-pa-ambit ta ni jesus christ sa kaluwasan (tanan katawhan) aron ta maluwas ug apil.

    coz sauna panahon ang kaluwasan para ra sa mga israelites walay apil ang gentile.. so aron ta maka-ambit sa kaluwasan gpakamatyan ta sa ginoo aron ta maapil sa kaluwasan..


    mao nay saktong hubad sa damgo ni pedro..
    brod...ako giingon "you can reflect on these chapters"

    because on your previous post it seems that you are sticking with the Jewish culture...|"exclusive"| ra kau...

    on both chapters...you can reflect on eating meat/pork...and at the same time...the acceptance of the Gentiles...and having them circumcise too...and so with other races...

    naka basa ka sa book ni isaiah? gtagna na daan na ma-imperyerno or walay kaluwasan ang mokaon ug baboy..

    pls read isa. 66:17-18 future na gtagna ni prophet isaiah he is foretelling ug unsay dangatan sa mokaon ug baboy.. hubara daw na ang gtag-na ni prophet isaiah ug unsay gpasabot ana..
    literally...refering to Swines...its a prophecy...it is also symbolic...

    did eat swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse: they shall be consumed together

    nonetheless...in the New Testament...

    brod...hope you can understand the term "superseded"...

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