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[bcasabee]

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Wow, this is getting interesting.................In the case of Adam and Eve, though I don't believe they really existed.......I am not saying I had already accepted Darwin's Human Evolution Theory............who know's we just came from pigs and then evolve to become humans.................hahahaha...........The problem with some Bible fanatics is that they take things literally..........the important thing is not weither or not Adam and Eve existed.......the important thing is the moral lesson of the story............

And about me not reading the Bible.........did I mention only laziness? I also mentioned about my lack of necessary background in order to understand the text................As far as I understand........the Bible is a mini library.......it contains lots of books in it right? it is written by authors with a different cultural background as our time, so that means you have to familiarize also the customs and traditions of the author and the intention of the author so that you cannot just jump into conclusions right away...........example............I remembered a story in a Bible about the sisters having *** with their own father........they made their father drunk first and then they made their incest move.................do you think an ordinary person can understand this? Now tell me Mr. Mosimos.......did the girls commit immoral acts?

[mosimos]

Ah so you are telling me that God did not created us then? That we just came from accident because we mutat from chimps or pig. May pa ang baboy ug unggoy original pa nga creature kay sa tawo. Is that what you are saying?

[mannyamador]

Chinese Catholics ask prayers to withstand pressure
http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=44012

May. 08 (AsiaNews) - The bishops of China's "underground" Catholic Church are asking the faithful to unite in prayer
for priests of the government-approved "official" Church, that they might have the strength to resist pressure to
break off their loyalty to the Holy See.

The AsiaNews service, which reported the request for prayers from the underground bishops, has inaugurated a
worldwide campaign, asking all Catholics to join in the effort.

The prayerful support of underground Catholics is deliberately in contrast with the threats and intimidation that the
Catholic Patriotic Association has used to rally support from clerics of the "official" Church.

In a May 4 statement protesting the illicit ordinations of bishops in Kunming and Wuhu, the Vatican took note of the
"strong pressure and threats" that were used to persuade Chinese bishops and priests to participate in the ceremonies.

The high-stakes battle for control of the Catholic Church in China was again illustrated vividly on May 7, when Father
Paul Pei Junmin was ordained as coadjutor bishop of the Shenyang diocese. While recognized by the government and
the "official" Church, the new bishop also has the approval of the Holy See-- unlike the two bishops ordained on April
30 and May 3.

The Catholic Patriotic Association has adamantly opposed the Vatican's claim to authority over the appointment of
bishops in China. The Patriotic Association pressed for the ordination of bishops without Vatican approval, and Liu
Bainian, the vice-president of the group, has said that he plans 20 more such ordinations of bishops in coming months.

One leader of the "official" Church told AsiaNews that his priests are being "subjected to enormous pressure" to accept
the leadership of the Patriotic Association. "In this moment it is necessary to pray for all priests of the official Church,"
an underground bishop told AsiaNews. "It is our duty."

[For a more detailed story on the conflict, see the AsiaNews web site.]

In a petition relayed through AsiaNews, the underground Catholic Church in China has asked the faithful -- in that country
and around the world-- to pray of the Holy Spirit and Our Lady each day until Pentecost: "that bishops and priests be
given strength and courage in the face of persecution, pressure, and threats that seek to destroy the unity of Chinese
Catholics with the Pope."

Support for this prayer request can be registered at: Asianews@asianews.it.

[mosimos]

Chinese Catholics ask prayers to withstand pressure
http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=44012

May. 08 (AsiaNews) - The bishops of China's "underground" Catholic Church are asking the faithful to unite in prayer
for priests of the government-approved "official" Church, that they might have the strength to resist pressure to
break off their loyalty to the Holy See.

The AsiaNews service, which reported the request for prayers from the underground bishops, has inaugurated a
worldwide campaign, asking all Catholics to join in the effort.

The prayerful support of underground Catholics is deliberately in contrast with the threats and intimidation that the
Catholic Patriotic Association has used to rally support from clerics of the "official" Church.

In a May 4 statement protesting the illicit ordinations of bishops in Kunming and Wuhu, the Vatican took note of the
"strong pressure and threats" that were used to persuade Chinese bishops and priests to participate in the ceremonies.

The high-stakes battle for control of the Catholic Church in China was again illustrated vividly on May 7, when Father
Paul Pei Junmin was ordained as coadjutor bishop of the Shenyang diocese. While recognized by the government and
the "official" Church, the new bishop also has the approval of the Holy See-- unlike the two bishops ordained on April
30 and May 3.

The Catholic Patriotic Association has adamantly opposed the Vatican's claim to authority over the appointment of
bishops in China. The Patriotic Association pressed for the ordination of bishops without Vatican approval, and Liu
Bainian, the vice-president of the group, has said that he plans 20 more such ordinations of bishops in coming months.

One leader of the "official" Church told AsiaNews that his priests are being "subjected to enormous pressure" to accept
the leadership of the Patriotic Association. "In this moment it is necessary to pray for all priests of the official Church,"
an underground bishop told AsiaNews. "It is our duty."

[For a more detailed story on the conflict, see the AsiaNews web site.]

In a petition relayed through AsiaNews, the underground Catholic Church in China has asked the faithful -- in that country
and around the world-- to pray of the Holy Spirit and Our Lady each day until Pentecost: "that bishops and priests be
given strength and courage in the face of persecution, pressure, and threats that seek to destroy the unity of Chinese
Catholics with the Pope."

Support for this prayer request can be registered at: Asianews@asianews.it.

Manny you could just imagine if China will allow Catholicism. It will bea blossoming of the Church in Asia. With 5 billion people, China will a welcom adition to the Church. A true testament of its universality.

[bcasabee]

Why? Is it a big deal whether or not God created us instantly? Will your faith to God lessens if a scientist will prove that we really evolved fromÂ* mosquitoes? You see Mosimos, I believe that the Universe was created by God and therefore was planned.........That means however we came to be humans is not really important for me......what's important is that God had planned for us that we become humans and not only that........the most important stage of human evolution is when we die ....... we humans will evolve into a very very high form of life like what we call angels (like a cocoon will turn into a beautiful butterfly)........ and that will be your rewarded eternal agony or eternal happiness depending on your deeds .......... now....that is my interpretaion of human evolution ............ man.....don't limit your question on how we become humans. I think it would be better to ask why we became humans and where are we going? The first question sounds useless to me compared to the second............well...that question might be of interest for scientists studying evolution..........am I right?

Ah so you are telling me that God did not created us then? That we just came from accident because we mutat from chimps or pig. May pa ang baboy ug unggoy original pa nga creature kay sa tawo. Is that what you are saying?

[shoeless_rebel]

Ah so you are telling me that God did not created us then? That we just came from accident because we mutat from chimps or pig. May pa ang baboy ug unggoy original pa nga creature kay sa tawo. Is that what you are saying?

bro, pilosopo ra kaayo imo approach ionno if gi-tuyo nimo or wala but i believe that firm believers of the evolution theory will tell you that baboy and unggoy are not original. they evolved from multi-cellular life forms from the primordial seas.

but u know what... it takes a lot more faith to believe in the evolution theory than the divine theory. meaning... mas lisod huna-hunaon ang evolution theory and mas lisod i rationalize than the divine theory. ionno what to believe in when it comes to creation... prolly evolution theory. i dont know and to be honest i really don't care. i dont bother myself with such things. hehehehehe...

it's like... i dont care how i got here but since m here already might as well make the best out of it

[fingolfin]

it's like... i dont care how i got here but since m here already might as well make the best out of it

.. absolutely. discussing about where we came from is endless and pointless. We're already here, so why bother. Might as well look ahead.

to everybody: just wait till you die, that's the only time when you can answer all your questions about God, souls and all those divine stuff

[at8n1981]

it's like... i dont care how i got here but since m here already might as well make the best out of it

.. absolutely. discussing about where we came from is endless and pointless. We're already here, so why bother. Might as well look ahead.

to everybody: just wait till you die, that's the only time when you can answer all your questions about God, souls and all those divine stuff

CORRECT ka ana bro! mau pa ig kamatay ni mosimos iyang lalison ang ginoo! pagdebate mo kay sweto man kau ka....mura ka man natao sa time ni jesus...pilosopo ra ba kau ka, d maminaw sa point sa uban ppol.....

[tolstoi]

BROD SHOELESS...yu are in the right path of salvation..continue embracing that path and you will see the light in the end :mrgreen:

[godCode]

gi atay ba ninyo tanan sigi mo debate about sa inyong relihiyon.. but be sure that ye all walk the talk... kay basin diri ramo kutob sa forums unya sa tinudanay diay kay mas hudas pa mo sa demonyo...

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