RELIGION

[richard79]

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Why is it that some people are so blind!? Eventhough that they admitted that there's something wrong with their religion and their ways of praising and praying to the Lord but still they would insist and choose to be blind by their faith... and their reason.. because tradition daw!

Unsa may inyong makuha sa tradition? kay tungod mao ray inyong naandan mao nalang sad na inyong sundon? WALA kakuha sa inyong gisimbahan? wala mo ka check sa inyong simbahan? PAsabta kuno ko beh?!?!!?

NGANO MAN? bisag inyong mga magwawale walay klaro mo wala just for the heck of it lang kay nakawale og less than 15mins. mao ra na! wala sila naghunahuna kung naa bay nakuha ilang tigpaminaw or ang nag simba nakasabot ba sa ilang gipangwale.... kay para lang nakawale....

Please enlighten my mind because im tired with this mess! *snipped by mod

This is what we are trying to prove here... this is the first issue that we were discussing...

[Cardinal Bunal]

The RCC if compared to the churches, early churches much like the ones found in Acts already have an artificial form of fellowship... if ever there's a more intimate fellowshipping other than the mass, it already includes a high price, like Php 1000 per head retreats (Bo Sanchez), but there are other denominations who belive through the message of the apostles and the prophets who try to preserve the tradition as taught and documented in the Scriptures.

But the Roman clergy can go as far as saying the Scriptures aren't all sufficient enough and don't contain all the necessary truths for salvation.

Often, they quote Jn 21: 25, but this is a statement of how all the miracles of Christ couldn't have been chronicled in one book, however John also wrote that the things being written in the Scriptures are all sufficient enough for people to know that they have eternal life (1 Jn 5: 13 )

At a time when the Bible wasn't even compiled, Paul said even his epistles about enough knowledge and information for one to be saved (1 Cor. 15: 2 )

But still the clergy strains to undermine the authority of the apostles and the prophets by saying The Scriptures cannot be the sole source of Christian truth and doctrine because they do not have all the necessary truths for our salvation (My Catholic Faith, Bishop Morrow )

No "church" that claims to be a pillar and foundation of truth if they base their truths on man-made doctrinals puffed up by their own minds and enjoy their practice of false humility. I am the Truth (Jn 14: 6 ) the Word is Truth (Jn 17: 17 )

but even so, a long time ago the clergy has always wanted to lead followers astray by saying "It is written word", and including those heretical doctrines as the "Gospel of Christ."

[glassjawed_grrl]

faith is blind.

[bad donkey!]

hahaaaay! nana pd ta ani! walay maluwas natong tanan kung inani ta! Love your neighbors ang gi-preach ni Jesus mga bro...bisag unsa pa na siya nga relihiyon imong silingan....kamo nga nag sige ug panaway sa lain nga relihiyon nagdala ra mo ug kaulaw sa inyong relihiyon sad..kutob ra mo ug istorya..magpalaban raba dayon sa bibliya! mapaakan biya intawn inyong dila...kita tanan parehas rata ug bible..bisag unsa pa na nga edition imung gikuptan diha..pareha ra na sa ako sa iya ug sa ila..ang ginoo iyang gi higugma ang mga gentiles ug ang iyang mga kontra...........kamo nga mga hinawayon?? inyo ba gihigugma inyo mga gipang saway? daghan hipokreto sa kalibotan bai...inyo lang gipangponan...mao na ang rason nga niundang ko ug simba! but it doesn't mean dili na ko motoo sa ginoo..i pray to God..thank God for the blessing that he gives to me..I worship God in my own way! I'm a christian and I talk to God...Dili ra sa simbahan pwede mo istorya sa Ginoo...kung wala ta maau masulti mas maau pa kung maghilom nalang...All we need is Love mga bro..

[Cardinal Bunal]

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hahaaaay! nana pd ta ani! walay maluwas natong tanan kung inani ta! Love your neighbors ang gi-preach ni Jesus mga bro...bisag unsa pa na siya nga relihiyon imong silingan....kamo nga nag sige ug panaway sa lain nga relihiyon nagdala ra mo ug kaulaw sa inyong relihiyon sad..kutob ra mo ug istorya..magpalaban raba dayon sa bibliya! mapaakan biya intawn inyong dila...kita tanan parehas rata ug bible..bisag unsa pa na nga edition imung gikuptan diha..pareha ra na sa ako sa iya ug sa ila..ang ginoo iyang gi higugma ang mga gentiles ug ang iyang mga kontra...........kamo nga mga hinawayon?? inyo ba gihigugma inyo mga gipang saway? daghan hipokreto sa kalibotan bai...inyo lang gipangponan...mao na ang rason nga niundang ko ug simba! but it doesn't mean dili na ko motoo sa ginoo..i pray to God..thank God for the blessing that he gives to me..I worship God in my own way! I'm a christian and I talk to God...Dili ra sa simbahan pwede mo istorya sa Ginoo...kung wala ta maau masulti mas maau pa kung maghilom nalang...All we need is Love mga bro..

not really, basin Gnostic beliefs na imo kay wa nimo gi capitalize ang "C" sa Christian...... or "easy believism" gihapon... it's also in the Bible the importance of church, but it's a question of what church is that...

Sa una yes, kinahanglan muadto jud ka's usa ka lugar but now your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, so also - theoretically you are correct... 1

It's also nice to love those who choose to adhere to the Scriptures for defense, cos it's what is taught 2, but it's also taught that there are others who will be easily offended by quotations from Scripture be it from Catholics or Non-Sectorial believers, and these people God says are those who don't give Him a chance to speak through His Word 3

1) 1 Cor. 6: 19 2) 2 Tim 3: 16 3) Jer. 6: 10

[MrBiddle]

What kind of love??

This thing called love I just can't handle it
this thing called love I must get round to it
I ain't ready
Crazy little thing called love
This (This Thing) called love
(Called Love)
It cries (Like a baby)
In a cradle all night
It swings (Woo Woo)
It jives (Woo Woo)
It shakes all over like a jelly fish,
I kinda like it
Crazy little thing called love

There goes my baby
She knows how to Rock n' roll
She drives me crazy
She gives me hot and cold fever
Then she leaves me in a cool cool sweat

I gotta be cool relax, get hip
Get on my track's
Take a back seat, hitch-hike
And take a long ride on my motor bike
Until I'm ready
Crazy little thing called love

I gotta be cool relax, get hip
Get on my track's
Take a back seat, hitch-hike
And take a long ride on my motor bike
Until I'm ready (Ready Freddie)
Crazy little thing called love

This thing called love I just can't handle it
this thing called love I must get round to it
I ain't ready
Crazy little thing called love
Crazy little thing called love
Crazy little thing called love
Crazy little thing called love
Crazy little thing called love
Crazy little thing called love
Crazy little thing called love
Crazy little thing called love

[mannyamador]

Then why did you include the Roman Clergy? That is yet another demonstration of your ignorance of this doctrine and the prejudice you display in criticizing something you haven't even begun to understand!

Well, it starts with the boss... then damay tanan.

Wrong again. The doctrine of papal infallibility has nothing to do with the rest of the clergy.

It is a sign of the worst and most idiotic kind of prejudice to attack a doctrine that you haven't even begun to understand. Your sad lack of reasoning and even basic understanding of concepts is so clearly evident it is almost shocking.

And you call yourself a Christian? What HYPOCRISY!

[mannyamador]

Often, they quote Jn 21: 25, but this is a statement of how all the miracles of Christ couldn't have been chronicled in one book, however John also wrote that the things being written in the Scriptures are all sufficient enough for people to know that they have eternal life (1 Jn 5: 13 )

Another misinterpretation! Knowing that one can have eternal life isn't the same as knowing everything needed to ATTAIN it. James clearly states that faith alone is NOT enoough. Works are needed for salvation. And as is quite evident by the thousands of contradictory interpretations of "bible believing" christians, the Bible IS NOT enough for them to even agree on what is needed for salvation. Some say water baptism is needed. Some say ti is just a symbol. Some say salvation can be lost. Some say it can't. And so on, ad nauseam.

At a time when the Bible wasn't even compiled, Paul said even his epistles about enough knowledge and information for one to be saved (1 Cor. 15: 2 )

And take note that Paul NEVER said that ALL this required knowledge was WRITTEN. In fact, he clearly states elsewhere that Christians should abide by what the Apostles SAID, not just what they wrote.


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[pnoize]

seeing that this thread is going nowehere, there no reason why this discussion should continue.

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