MERGED: Independent Cebu/Visayas

[silent-kill]

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I think the idea was strengthened at the time when Cebu was struck with typhoon Ruping and were left on our knees and constantly appealing the capital for aide pero wa jud ta gitabangan kay busy sad sila ga ayu sa luzon, so we were left alone to rebuild our city. Asa nata naabot karon, naa man say basis ang idea considering na gamay ra kaayu ang mubalik sa ato-a sa atong tax nga gipadala sa Manila, ngadto ra halos tanan nagasto.. pero galambo man gihapon ta unya sila ngadto ga sige gihapon ug welga.
Federal nalang... proud man gihapon ko as a Filipino.

lahi rajud ang culture sa taga cebu bai, maka ingon jud ko nga mas nindot ta og synergy hhehhe. nya magka sinabtanay ta pariparihas pud ta og mindset

[silent-kill]

di mahimong pilipinas kung way cebu....dapat united ang FILIPINO...we should prefer calling ourselves as a FILIPINO of a (bisaya, tagalog, moro) descent...para maging progressive ang pilipinas, iunite natu ang atung kaugalingon under the banner of philippines and let's not divide ourselves...bisaya ko pero proud ko pagka FILIPINO...

sakto ka brad, although paspas kaau ang cebu og saka compare sa uban.. dapat stick together mga pinoys hehe

[leonell]

^^start from scratch? what do you mean?

When Cebu becomes an independent state, we have so many things to do.

What government type will we adopt? Who will be the leaders? What political process will we use? Who will make laws? What laws to make? Start a new currency, putting up embassies in the World's 164 countries. Establish a military, navy and airforce. Assign foreign representatives. Get recognition from the U.N. Stabilize the economy.

We're simply starting with nothing. It took 10 years for the Philippines to transition from a Commonwealth State to an Independent Republic and the war delayed it further. Now how much more Cebu?

[nowpress*]

its time for a federal system of Govt.

[miyay]

When Cebu becomes an independent state, we have so many things to do.

What government type will we adopt? Who will be the leaders? What political process will we use? Who will make laws? What laws to make? Start a new currency, putting up embassies in the World's 164 countries. Establish a military, navy and airforce. Assign foreign representatives. Get recognition from the U.N. Stabilize the economy.

We're simply starting with nothing. It took 10 years for the Philippines to transition from a Commonwealth State to an Independent Republic and the war delayed it further. Now how much more Cebu?

agree ko ani...

[kreik101]

lahi rajud ang culture sa taga cebu bai, maka ingon jud ko nga mas nindot ta og synergy hhehhe. nya magka sinabtanay ta pariparihas pud ta og mindset

Yeah mailhan man jud. Ako gani mas proud pako being called a cebuano rather than being a filipino that foreigners likely refer to the people in manila, judging on how things are going on in NCR.

[kreik101]

When Cebu becomes an independent state, we have so many things to do.

What government type will we adopt? Who will be the leaders? What political process will we use? Who will make laws? What laws to make? Start a new currency, putting up embassies in the World's 164 countries. Establish a military, navy and airforce. Assign foreign representatives. Get recognition from the U.N. Stabilize the economy.

We're simply starting with nothing. It took 10 years for the Philippines to transition from a Commonwealth State to an Independent Republic and the war delayed it further. Now how much more Cebu?

I agree lisud jud. But not an entirely silly idea.. Singapore had done it in 40 years and even surpassed Malaysia eventually.

[iKlien]

thinking about the location of CEBU CITY in the PHILIPPINES, we are the site of BIG BUSINESS ESTABLISHMENTS and FOREIGN INVESTORS man kay we are at the center-most area of the country and usahay ra agian ug baguio. Which means, CEBU is the ...most convenient place to land EVERY SUPPLYING DEPARTMENT sa big companies diri sa philippines (imagine APO Cement, i.locate nato sa Manila, mag.deliver ug supplies sa Davao, layu kaayu right? ^_^). Nya the more the bus.comp and investors, the more taxes ang i.bayad sa city. which, in the end, makes it a reason for the capital to HOLD CEBU as a part of the Philippines, Avoid Federalism and OUST GMA.

[leonell]

I agree lisud jud. But not an entirely silly idea.. Singapore had done it in 40 years and even surpassed Malaysia eventually.

Why will I wait for another 40 years for Cebu to stabilize and another decade or century to surpass the Philippines when it can prosper greatly while being part of PHL? Singapore is another story, I don't want Cebu to have the same cost of living like SG, it's too expensive. And SG only depends on international trade for it's commodities unlike PHL which produces on it's own for it's own.

[kreik101]

Why will I wait for another 40 years for Cebu to stabilize and another decade or century to surpass the Philippines when it can prosper greatly while being part of PHL? Singapore is another story, I don't want Cebu to have the same cost of living like SG, it's too expensive. And SG only depends on international trade for it's commodities unlike PHL which produces on it's own for it's own.

Im just saying that it isnt impossible to be independent and still survive. I wasnt pushing the idea of being separated from the philippines. Im more of federalism. We wont really prosper in a type of government in which only 10 percent of the tax we remit in manila comes back to us, so we need to be more autonomous especially in funds. And for the record, our economy is mainly based on trading since we only have barren landscapes and our strategic location in the country. And I think most in most progressive countries the cost of living is high, Ive been to a number of first world countries and I haven't gone to one in which the cost of living is just the same here in cebu. Although it is compensated since they have free healthcare services, free bus ride for children, etc. They have lot of stuffs that people enjoy through their taxes.