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  1. #711

    Default Re: Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?


    accepting Christ/God as Lord the savior is faith,which i believe is the start of the Christian faith..
    then of course if you have that faith, you share the same compassion that Christ had..may not
    be of the same level..but as followers/believers would always imitate their masters,as Christian i would
    ask grace from Jesus to give me the compassion for others and that's where good works comes in...community services, feeding, outreach programs etc..for me this is the physical side of goodworks and of course it always requires faith to able to do these sincerely..that's where the spiritual side of good works comes in, like being a real friend,respectful, kind hearted ec mostly just being a blessing...even if you dont have limbs or you're paralyzed..
    you can still be a blessing to others, making them realize how precious life is by showing others that in the midst of struggle there is still hope in the hereafter, that death is not the end of us...and of course one cannot do this without faith..that's how early Christians endure suffering,martyrdom,mother theresa for example,pope in the old testament...noah built the arc out of faith and lots of other examples..i would have cited muslim faithfuls but i don't know one..hehehe...for sure lots of them too...

  2. #712

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Even if You think that you are correct, It doesnt Mean nga sakto na jud ka. Kay di man kita maoy mu judge ug sakto nata, ang Ginoo man.
    you're right bro, God is the supreme judge..as a Christian i'm taught
    to Love God above all else, trying my best..hehehe...usahay mu labaw ang
    problema..but God is faithful..i would always end up asking for Him...
    and second is to love others as much as i would love myself...this is extremely hard..
    but in Christ's grace...in His time i would be able to do it...because He is faithful
    all i gotta do is to keep trying.

  3. #713

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    Quote Originally Posted by defender_1611 View Post
    Faith + nothing = Salvation bro....
    So if ikaw akong pangutan on, save naka run? save nsad ka hangtod ka mamatay?

  4. #714

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    katong pipz before Jesus Christ..impyerno to tanan?

  5. #715

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    Quote Originally Posted by genesis11 View Post
    Buddha didn't die for you!

    Mosses didn't die for you!

    Mohammad didn't die for you!

    We aren't talking about the superiority of people when compared to unbelievers.

    Christians are not better than any one <- They just have a Perfect Savior. Only them.

    SO, my questions for you is, do God need someone to die to save for you? In that sense, your god is a powerless god he has no power to forgive, not merciful god to his creatures?

    WHERE is the logic in that concept of atonement if you believed your god is Great, Good, Loving, All-powerful and so on....

  6. #716

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    that's why it's called mystery guys 'cause we're not really able to fathom God's ways...
    we wouldn't really know how God would reveal himself..to our Muslim brothers and sisters..
    God reveals himself as Allah though His prophet Muhammed, to the Jews He reveals Himself as Yahweh, Jehovah,
    God of Abraham..and the God of Ishmael i believe is also the same God of Jacod whom we Christians call Father God/Yahweh
    'cause Christianity is of Jewish descent, in the Christian theology..of course other faith might not accept this..but Father God,Jesus and the Holy Spirit are one..so technically through Jesus as the Christian savior God is revealed...
    in the old testament of the bible..God created man as an expression of His love..and because of mans disobedience..
    man is bound for damnation..that's why sacrifices are made, burnt offerings, good works so on and so forh have been instructed
    to God's prophets to have his people for forgiveness of sins, but as per history..even the prophets and faithful would sin..that's where the messianic prophecy came in...for Christians the messiah is Jesus..
    the promised one/the perfect offering to redeem mankind.as what man cannot do,Jesus would..as Jesus would suplicate man's inequity..hence we will be worthy in the eyes of God..and again this is Christian theology,and we believe that Jesus in one with the Father..so techbnically it is God who literally saved us from damnation through Christ Jesus...

  7. #717

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    @wormy

    mahitabo ni nmu if cge ka tira sa ISLAM. muabot jud panahon nmu ani.....

    ok ra sread imu belief bai..yaw lng pangatake to support ur so called belief..


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  8. #718

    Default Re: Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

    Galatians 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

    good works can be defined as the fruit of the spirit.
    I believe asking forgiveness can also be one of good works but asking forgiveness does not grant us an excuse us to sinning and the other responsibilities of a christian.

  9. #719

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    we also need to work with our faith to be save. Naa tinuod ka faith but your work or deeds are stupid then dili gyud ka ma save

  10. #720

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    If people are good only because they fear punishment and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed.

    by: A. Einstein

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