Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

[LaBelleza]

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u will need to translate this part for me first: Kay naay uban Christians diri na mu ingun kanang pag ask Forgiveness or kana pag accept ni Kristo, good works nah na. unsa pud kaha interpretation sa Islam ana?

[genesis11]

the Bible truth is like a refreshing water, clean water.

trinity is not in the bible and if you accept that there is no trinity teaching in the bible you will be refreshed.

YEAH! Like of course Freemasons/Demolays don't believe in the Trinity as well.. Good job you figured it out.

Who's funding your organization as a whole ? Huh?! Trace the money folks!

[genesis11]

@klayton

gidumtan na siya sa uban nga naa sa power sa government brod maong gipangitaan nalang ug bisan unsa nga accusation. Just like Manny Pacquaio ba nga karon nagtinuod na sa iyang belief as a Christian, gipangitaan sad ug sayop about tax.

Gato-o gyd na sila pag ma priso ang taw makakasala na dayon gud..



https://www.istorya.net/forums/genera...y-tunisia.html

[SioDenz]

u will need to translate this part for me first: Kay naay uban Christians diri na mu ingun kanang pag ask Forgiveness or kana pag accept ni Kristo, good works nah na. unsa pud kaha interpretation sa Islam ana?

My Question what is the interpretation of the Word Good Works in Islam. Is it Physical Good Works like giving Alms, Helping others, etc..?

Because some Christians here says that Accepting God is already Good works. Or asking forgiveness is already Good Works.

[genesis11]

Buddha didn't die for you!

Mosses didn't die for you!

Mohammad didn't die for you!

We aren't talking about the superiority of people when compared to unbelievers.

Christians are not better than any one <- They just have a Perfect Savior. Only them.

[LaBelleza]

Oh okie....

Yes good work like charity (Zakat) is one of the FIVE PILLARS of Islam. This charity, in order to please God, has to be done with pure intention. Say, if someone was to give charity just look good and righteous in front of people - that is more of an evil deed.
Faith is the most important of the five pillars which is made of both inner belief and actions. The Holy Qur'an says:
“And those who strive hard in Our Cause, We will certainly guide them to our Ways: For verily God is with those who do right.” (Quran 61:11).
Not just the Qur'an.....
“You see that a person is justified by his works and not by faith alone.” (James 2:24)

In Islam, God only loves the good-doers and not the evil-doers. But God will forgive an evil-doer if his repentance is sincere coz God is All-Forgiving. My brother (Athiest btw) was talking to a Christian in Texas (gamer friend I believe) who said that as long as you believe in God, you go to Heaven whether you've done good or bad. But isn't this concept of having just faith rejected in the Bible?

[defender_1611]

Makalibog, mao bitaw akong pangutana if after ka Maluwas nya makasala ka, luwas diay ghapon ka nga wa nman ka naka tuman sa requirements nga good works? ni agree baya ka nga after maluwas pwedi makasala ghapon.

unsay pasabot anang DIli naka mu serve sa SIN? di naka makasala?

When man diay ang tawo ma saved, dinhi palang sa yuta while buhi pa siya OR ig kamatay na?

Wala man ta mag lalis, nagpadaygamay raman ta. Di unta ni natu undangun kay healthy man ni nga discussion, naa tah makat unan ani.

sa buhi pa bro....dili naman ka maluwas kung patay naka kana kung wala paka ma saved.....Yes Bro luwas gihapon even if maka sala ka....kay ang kaluwasan bro dili na na siya mawagtang kay gi silyohan nata sa Holy Spirit sumala pa sa Ephesians 1:13 (KJV)
"In whom ye also [trusted], after that ye heard THE word of truth, THE gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were SEALED with that HOLY SPIRIT of promise,"......buot pasabot nako bro na mag buhat tag maayo dili para maluwas kung di para mahimaya nato ang atong Ginoo.....bisan unsaon nato ug pagpakasala kung luwas naka, luwas jud ka dili nana siya mawagtang.....John 10:28 (KJV)
"And I give unto THEM eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any [man] PLUCK THEM OUT OF MY hand."

[SioDenz]

Oh okie....

Yes good work like charity (Zakat) is one of the FIVE PILLARS of Islam. This charity, in order to please God, has to be done with pure intention. Say, if someone was to give charity just look good and righteous in front of people - that is more of an evil deed.
Faith is the most important of the five pillars which is made of both inner belief and actions. The Holy Qur'an says:
“And those who strive hard in Our Cause, We will certainly guide them to our Ways: For verily God is with those who do right.” (Quran 61:11).
Not just the Qur'an.....
“You see that a person is justified by his works and not by faith alone.” (James 2:24)

In Islam, God only loves the good-doers and not the evil-doers. But God will forgive an evil-doer if his repentance is sincere coz God is All-Forgiving. My brother (Athiest btw) was talking to a Christian in Texas (gamer friend I believe) who said that as long as you believe in God, you go to Heaven whether you've done good or bad. But isn't this concept of having just faith rejected in the Bible?

So what if a Person Does Not have any capacity to do good works? like paralysis? or some accepted Jesus or Islam ang then after accepting Died. Whats the status of that man? he doesnt have a chance to do Good works after he believes?

I ask this questions just to know the interpretation of different Faith.

[SioDenz]

buot pasabot nako bro na mag buhat tag maayo dili para maluwas kung di para mahimaya nato ang atong Ginoo.....bisan unsaon nato ug pagpakasala kung luwas naka, luwas jud ka dili nana siya mawagtang.....

So "Faith + Good Works = Salvation" Does Not apply to you?

Once save always save diay imu tinuhuan bro?

[defender_1611]

So "Faith + Good Works = Salvation" Does Not apply to you?

Once save always save diay imu tinuhuan bro?

Faith + nothing = Salvation bro....