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    Ok ra...


    Kun mulupad ang baboy.

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    Big Yes for Marcos. Proven track record of the family.
    Last edited by reyscott1968; 02-17-2018 at 05:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genghis2510 View Post
    nah.. nothings proven.

  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by Attorneybirdman View Post
    nah.. i dont care.. there's no difference anyway ...

    2012? nothing new?

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by Attorneybirdman View Post
    From "nah.. nothings proven." to "nah.. i dont care.." really quick.

    Your everyday Filipino voter..
    and your another marcos hater. lol. why not look on the accomplishments? lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Attorneybirdman View Post
    Of course I am. Objective data point to his regime as the start of the demise of my country. We are still paying for debts incurred as a result of his regime. That data is all available in white papers by reputable institutions and not some "yellow" bullsh*t propaganda.

    Why do you love him though? Do we not have more qualified and better leaders available? That is the bigger question.

    No arguments based on "chismis" please.
    lol. i believe in you sir... kudos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Attorneybirdman View Post
    Of course I am. Objective data point to his regime as the start of the demise of my country. We are still paying for debts incurred as a result of his regime. That data is all available in white papers by reputable institutions and not some "yellow" bullsh*t propaganda. But let me guess, you "nah.. i dont care.."

    Why do you love him though? Do we not have more qualified and better leaders available? That is the bigger question.

    No arguments based on "chismis" please.
    he just borrowed money left and right and there was no gains from the borrowing just sinking the country in debt.

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    All these arguments..

    Marcos borrowed left and right - for infrastructures - sounds like Duterte.

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    When the yellows took over, all of Marcos' accomplishments scrapped , and all the debts blamed on the Family.

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    And when CORY took over, she was made a saint.

    and all her accomplishments -- by the way unsay mga accomplishments ni Cory? , is bolstered to topmost parts of the world.

    1. Hacienda Luisita? --- Agrarian Reform?
    2. ARMM - Failed state
    3. Hacienda Luisita -- Massacred farmers?
    4. Peace Talks with the NPA -- which only meant one thing for these people - -- a chance to gather more troops
    4. Another President - Noynoy ?? -- don't even get me started..
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    Sa tinuod lang lisod kaayo ning kaso sa mga Marcos.

    If tanawon nimo diri, gi reverse man ang decision. hasola aning governoha.


    Greatest robbery of a Government | Guinness World Records


    The government of the Philippines announced on 23 Apr 1986 that it had succeeded in identifying $860.8 million (£569.5 million) salted away by the former President Ferdinand Edralin Marcos (1917–89) and his wife Imelda. The total national loss from November 1965 was believed to be $5–$10 billion.

    Ferdinand and Imelda Marcos fled to Hawaii, USA, in 1986, where the former president died. Imelda Marcos returned to the Philippines in 1991, and was found guilty of corruption in 1993. However, Imelda Marcos was cleared of all charges on appeal in October 1998. The Philippine Supreme Court acquitted her, setting aside a 12-year jail sentence. The decision - by a majority of 8-5, with 1 abstention - reversed a January ruling by the Supreme Court on her 1993 conviction by a lower court.
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    Quote Originally Posted by genghis2510 View Post
    Again, I'm not a Marcos apologist, pero ang imong gi quote raba bro kay murag ni sumbalik sa imohang gi sulti.

    The government of the Philippines announced on 23 Apr 1986 that it had succeeded in identifying $860.8 million (£569.5 million) salted away by the former President Ferdinand Edralin Marcos (1917–89) and his wife Imelda. The total national loss from November 1965 was believed to be $5–$10 billion.

    Ferdinand and Imelda Marcos fled to Hawaii, USA, in 1986, where the former president died. Imelda Marcos returned to the Philippines in 1991, and was found guilty of corruption in 1993. However, Imelda Marcos was cleared of all charges on appeal in October 1998. The Philippine Supreme Court acquitted her, setting aside a 12-year jail sentence. The decision - by a majority of 8-5, with 1 abstention - reversed a January ruling by the Supreme Court on her 1993 conviction by a lower court.
    Last edited by firestarter; 02-19-2018 at 10:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Attorneybirdman View Post
    Just to remind you sir, it is okay to hate both of them. It is okay to never vote for any of them ever again.

    Ang sad.an ni bongbong kay iya g.deny ang mga wrongdoings nahitabo while at the same time nag enjoy siya sa fruits from that poisonous tree. Profiting from a crime, which is the very essence of an "accessory" sa Penal Code. Although dili na mu hold sa court kana na logic, bear in mind na a lot of the accusations against sa mga aquinos dili pud legally punishable and yet we hold it against them.

    Again, false dichotomy is a logical fallacy. I personally hate both factions myself. Cory was no saint, and she destroyed the energy sector completely. But that doesnt wash off the sins of the Marcoses.

    Sayun raman unta ang progress ba, we just have to vote for better leaders. Kusog man kaayo ta mu.settle sa lesser evil gud.

    Some proofs that you subscribe unapologetically to the fallacy:

    Note: Seems to me that you are.

    What is false dichotomy?

    Source: wiki
    Lisoda ika discuss nimo Attorney, kay you are playing both sides. Ug sa tinambay pa nga istorya, walay baruganan.

    Unya mo ingon raba dayon nga Laban Ko sa Pilipinas.

    For that simple matter, there is no point discussing with you.

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    Ani nalang..


    Whether or NOT Cory's performance is better than Ferdinand Marcos.

    Then I would contend that Marcos' performance in public service was way better than that of Cory.

    Choose your side, kay dili man diay ka Pro Aquino unya dili man pud ka Pro Marcos, diri nalang ta mag discuss sa ilang performance in service to the government.

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    On a separate note, when you say
    bear in mind na a lot of the accusations against sa mga aquinos dili pud legally punishable and yet we hold it against them.
    Hacienda Luisita?? Gi implement ni Corona ang decision sa Supreme Court , in which you are supposed to hold (kay attorney baya ka), si Corona pa ang gi initan ni noynoy? -- but then again dili mo hold sa court ang kang Corona.

    Sige ang implementation nalang..


    DAF ni noynoy? -- unconstitutional ---- bear in mind wala na gi reverse sa SC..

    --- Diri ta sa non-legal matters ---

    SAF44?

    DengVaxia?

    YolandaFunds?

    Ahhhhh don't get me wrong... wala lage na sa Korte but it is a glaring red flag.

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