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    Default Re: BRP Ramon Alcaraz - 2nd Hamilton Class of PN


    Quote Originally Posted by 7DMM View Post
    yes but diego silang doesn't belong to the same class as goyo and monching.
    i know.my point is..this is not the 1st time we have ship coming from USCG.

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    Default Re: BRP Ramon Alcaraz - 2nd Hamilton Class of PN

    Quote Originally Posted by balipseyev View Post
    BRP Diego Silang is a Barnegat Class WHEC...
    i know. but still a WHEC right? now my point is this is not the 1st time we have a ship coming from USCG..thats all

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    Default Re: BRP Ramon Alcaraz - 2nd Hamilton Class of PN

    Quote Originally Posted by balipseyev View Post
    If ever we got the Italian ship, i prefer we arm this WHEC with Otomat, mas dali ang maintenance if single system only...
    Plus we might be able to arm the Jacinto's with 2 or 4 Otomats... It might be cheaper than buying Harpoons...

    for the goyo and ramon possible but for the jacinto's? no i dont think so.

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    Default Re: BRP Ramon Alcaraz - 2nd Hamilton Class of PN

    Quote Originally Posted by balipseyev View Post
    BRP Diego Silang is a Barnegat Class WHEC...
    wasn't it converted to a Casco-class USCG cutter? Or was it one of the Barnegats that were not modified.

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    Default Re: BRP Ramon Alcaraz - 2nd Hamilton Class of PN

    and we actually have 4 ex USCG whec.

    Francisco Dagohoy (PF-10)
    BRP Diego Silang (PF-9)
    RPS Gregorio del Pilar (PF-8
    BRP Andres Bonifacio (PF-7)

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    Default Re: BRP Ramon Alcaraz - 2nd Hamilton Class of PN

    OT

    since you talked about kids and armchair generals, i found a lot them here:


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    Default Re: BRP Ramon Alcaraz - 2nd Hamilton Class of PN

    kuyawag mga name sa mga barko sah

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    Default Re: BRP Ramon Alcaraz - 2nd Hamilton Class of PN

    Quote Originally Posted by balipseyev View Post
    If ever we got the Italian ship, i prefer we arm this WHEC with Otomat, mas dali ang maintenance if single system only...
    Plus we might be able to arm the Jacinto's with 2 or 4 Otomats... It might be cheaper than buying Harpoons...

    unsay spec comparison ani ug sa Exocet MM38/40? This looks feasible para sa PN.
    Last edited by æRLO; 07-11-2012 at 11:17 AM.

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    Default Re: BRP Ramon Alcaraz - 2nd Hamilton Class of PN

    ^ those exocets were deadly during the falkland war.

    we should had those but with land base launcher much cheaper no ship needed and within effective range if launch in Zambales.

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    Default Re: BRP Ramon Alcaraz - 2nd Hamilton Class of PN

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    unsay spec comparison ani ug sa Exocet MM38/40? This looks feasible para sa PN.
    Here is a techincal comparison sa Exocet MM40

    Otomat
    Country: Italy
    Alternate Name: Teseo
    Class: SLCM
    Target: Ship
    Length: 4.46 m
    Diameter: 0.46 m
    Launch Weight: 770.00 kg
    Payload: 210 kg HE, SAP (Mk 1/2); 160 kg HE, SAP (Mk 3/NGASM)
    Propulsion: Turbojet
    Range: 60-180 km
    Guidance: INS, datalink, active radar
    Status: Operational
    In Service: 1976-Present


    Exocet MM-40
    Country: France
    Class: SLCM
    Target: Ship
    Length: 5.80 m
    Diameter: 0.35 m
    Launch Weight: 870.00 kg
    Payload: 165 kg HE, fragmentation
    Propulsion: Solid
    Range: 70.00 km
    Guidance: INS, active radar
    Status: Operational
    In Service: 1981-Present

    Otomat would require double the space required for exocet missiles... If the Americans armed the Hamiltons with 8 Harpoon, 4 Otomat ra ang mabutang (I dunno if feasible ba ibutang sa midship)
    Last edited by balipseyev; 07-11-2012 at 06:12 PM.

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