do u believe the 6day creation or genesis / noah's ark? or man came from apes?

[tripwire]

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OT: Sorry Trip, I do not have it with me, but it is written,
please see the link,

Bible Prophecy End Times Signs Revealed - Last Days

Tirong... when you say, "it is written..." do you actually believe that the world is going to end? let's just say, destructively? Prophecy is prophecy... it's a "hit or miss" probability. Chances of "believing" in that is 1 to 4.55 billion years [according Earth's age]. Since then, "religion" is kind of "hoping" that there is "the end" and yet... the earth survived billions of years. Aren't you tired of waiting for the world to end?

[fingolfin]

.. ok, talking of prophecies. There have been countless prophecies that have been proven false, like the end of the world will come on 1999, coz if you reverse the 1999, it will come out 1666. And many others... please to those who are religious, please don't limit yourself to this prison which is your religious beliefs, just put it on the side, focus on life and how to spend it happily, not to what your religion dictates but to what you yourself wants. and by saying that, i am off topic, nyehehehe


.. back to topic. It's hard to believe in that great flood of Noah, i just saw that 2012 movie and it greatly resembles the Noah's Ark tragedy. If that flood did happen, where did the water came from ?? And why only Noah where chosen ??


.. and really now, why is it that upon reading the Bible, it only revolves around Israel and it's neighboring countries And if you try to relate it to the entire history of the world, there have been other people living in the British Isles, the chinese, the japanese and native american indians, the aborigines of australia, they were all living during those times of jesus, how come there were not included in the Bible ?? Is God only limited to Jerusalem, Israel and it's neighbors ??

[vern]

What the hell is wrong with you guys? Do you not know how fruitless it is to argue with each other? WOW.

Everyone please commence banging your heads on the wall ... you will probably be more productive.

This thread doesn't belong here ... it belongs in General Discussions.

[YJOB]

Speaking of Noah's Ark or the Great Flood, it better be a non-literal story, because if it is indeed literal then I don't believe it really happened.

My argument is that you cannot possibly contain a pair of each animal inside a big boat, even if it is as big as Lusitania or the Titanic.

Maybe it's just a parable or some sort of story that means something else.
Because if you guys do insist that it is what it appears to be, then how do you represent all animals WHEN the others only live in specific places?

I mean, the Tamaraw for example, a native, found only in Mindoro.
The rare animals of the Galapagos Islands.

And on top of that, you can't just enlist a pair of snakes to climb safely on board, since there's got to be cobras, pythons, rattlesnakes, boas, sidewinders, and hundreds of variants in that specie alone.

If there is only one kind of every animal, the bulldogs, chihuahuas, german sheperds, labradors, dalmatians, and all the other types of dog would not exist today because only Noah's dogs have survived the flood.

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[Bisayang_manok]

Speaking of Noah's Ark or the Great Flood, it better be a non-literal story, because if it is indeed literal then I don't believe it really happened.

My argument is that you cannot possibly contain a pair of each animal inside a big boat, even if it is as big as Lusitania or the Titanic.

Maybe it's just a parable or some sort of story that means something else.
Because if you guys do insist that it is what it appears to be, then how do you represent all animals WHEN the others only live in specific places?

I mean, the Tamaraw for example, a native, found only in Mindoro.
The rare animals of the Galapagos Islands.

And on top of that, you can't just enlist a pair of snakes to climb safely on board, since there's got to be cobras, pythons, rattlesnakes, boas, sidewinders, and hundreds of variants in that specie alone.

If there is only one kind of every animal, the bulldogs, chihuahuas, german sheperds, labradors, dalmatians, and all the other types of dog would not exist today because only Noah's dogs have survived the flood.

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this is what as, well obviously, a believer of the bible, I think It did happened. We must not forget, if you will, the "God-element" found in the story of Noah and the Ark. missing it can bring tons of confusion in our understanding of the story. I believe that it was Divine intervention that brought all the animals inside the Ark.


if you study the external and internal evidences for the flood story and Noah's Ark, your doubts would go away.

some pointers to keep in mind...
-the animals came by pair
-the animals were young
-there are really few big animals in the animal kingdom like Dinosaur, elephant, giraffe. In other words tanang animals mga gagmay ra, like tiger, lion, horses, sheeps, goats. so if you think about it...masolod jud sila, to think nga katong mga dagkong animals gamay ra ang ilang numbers and they were young at that time and their size was only about the size of an adult sheep.
- after the flood the animals procreated and through micro evolution their kinds evolved into different classes. thus today we now have different classes of dogs, horses, fishes..and so on...

[Bisayang_manok]

.. ok, talking of prophecies. There have been countless prophecies that have been proven false, like the end of the world will come on 1999, coz if you reverse the 1999, it will come out 1666. And many others... please to those who are religious, please don't limit yourself to this prison which is your religious beliefs, just put it on the side, focus on life and how to spend it happily, not to what your religion dictates but to what you yourself wants. and by saying that, i am off topic, nyehehehe


.. back to topic. It's hard to believe in that great flood of Noah, i just saw that 2012 movie and it greatly resembles the Noah's Ark tragedy. If that flood did happen, where did the water came from ?? And why only Noah where chosen ??


.. and really now, why is it that upon reading the Bible, it only revolves around Israel and it's neighboring countries And if you try to relate it to the entire history of the world, there have been other people living in the British Isles, the chinese, the japanese and native american indians, the aborigines of australia, they were all living during those times of jesus, how come there were not included in the Bible ?? Is God only limited to Jerusalem, Israel and it's neighbors ??

I agree and Christians should be careful, they should not listen to this kind of prophecies. It's really funny.


Noah's flood

it came from above and under the earth. As what the bible says. and again let us not leave out God.


God personally choose Israel and its neighboring countires as the setting of His Great Story. What so special about Israel? none. It was all God's initiative.

[YJOB]

- after the flood the animals procreated and through micro evolution their kinds evolved into different classes. thus today we now have different classes of dogs, horses, fishes..and so on...

Problem is, the Bible may not agree with the theory of evolution.
Anyway, there are so many passages in the Bible which are not to be taken literaly because they have a deeper meaning which is far from it's literal context, and Noah's story might be one of them.

Flood could be mean something else.
Animals could mean something else.

[chad_tukes]

this is what as, well obviously, a believer of the bible, I think It did happened. We must not forget, if you will, the "God-element" found in the story of Noah and the Ark.

it came from above and under the earth. As what the bible says. and again let us not leave out God.

yeah, insert GOD in the equation and it is automatically possible. heck, GOD even impregnated a virgin woman. whatta surprise.

[Bisayang_manok]

Problem is, the Bible may not agree with the theory of evolution.
Anyway, there are so many passages in the Bible which are not to be taken literaly because they have a deeper meaning which is far from it's literal context, and Noah's story might be one of them.

Flood could be mean something else.
Animals could mean something else.

yeah, the bible does not agree with the theory, that's right.

true, the books found in the bible are categorized in different classes namely: Historical,poetry,Laws, and others...so different laws or hermeneutics are applied in each class. In the case of the flood since the story is found in Genesis and genesis is considered a historical book we should therefore treat the Flood story as what it is, a literal interpretation must be used.

but if you insist, what can I really do?

[YJOB]

anyway, another flood is coming.
it's a different flood kay perte na daghana nato di ta masulod ug usa ra ka ark.

kung mahilis na ang ice sa north pole, lubog ta tanan.